Some good pics here. Surprised no one's had the bannister away. http://www.hulldailymail.co.uk/Insi...ilding-urban/story-26518342-detail/story.html
It's a disgrace that it's been allowed to get in this state, HCC keep announcing they're going to take action but years down the line they've done **** all.
Isn't it ABP land? This clamour for the Council to put right the problems due to the greed of private of industry puts the blame in the wrong place on many occasions.
The Lord Line belongs to Manor Properties. If a private owner is negligent, it's up to the Council to do something about it, nobody else can. In this instance, they've been just as negligent as Phil Akrill.
They can only work within the law. They also need to prioritise limited public funds and resources. Strictly speaking, it's been under the control of another authority for most of it's time as it was covered by the Port Health Authority I believe. The problem is greedy private individuals.
The Council can force the owner to carry out works to prevent the building deteriorating beyond repair, they said they were doing exactly that via an S215 order last year, yet in the past six months it's deteriorated more than ever. It's reached such a state now that the council could probably get a CPO to take ownership of the building for nothing, though obviously that would be on the basis that they needed to spend £50k immediately to stop it falling down.
Not wrong, but a bit simplistic. I think you'd be surprised at what goes on behind the scenes with such things. The blame still falls firmly on the greed and selfishness of the private businesses and others that could also have taken action. The Council are picking up the bill for other people's ****.
Perhaps amongst other things, the priority was more on using resources and funds for things like health and education before picking up other people's failings.
I remember doing an art project arount '93 on the Lord Line building. The dock bit outside was going to be a huge shark tank with a transparent tunnel going through it. Deep bastards nicked my idea
I'd be in favour of ignoring all the obese people and using the mobility scooter money to convert the Lord Line into a fishing heritage centre. Job sorted.
All it would take is for people passionate about such things to join together and acquire it. They could have all the profit from the deal.
Can you imagine what kind of money would be necessary to restore such a huge place? And then what do you use it for? Possibly a museum/cultural centre for education on the fishing & trawling trades. Maybe Council funds would be available for such a scheme But to make a profit out of it would be very long term, the infrastructure is shot already.
I bet it would have a Bob Carvers or Harry ****ing Ramsdens in it. Actually HCC diverts funding from the health education budget all of the time.
The profit, or lack of it, was my point. It's expensive enough for the council to fulfil their obligation in making these buildings safe, when the owners neglect their responsibilities, but putting such a huge burden of correcting the building itself is more than the ratepayers could afford. It'd be a variation on the arguments against giving away council assets like the KC.
I'm in the dark how it all works. But does it cost Manor Properties anything to keep hold of the building? Are there any grants a group who wanted to buy and restore the building could apply for?
Any works to make the site secure are billed to the owner or attached as land charges. I wouldn't expect there were grants that the owner could apply for or I reckon they'd have done it. It's possible there are some the Council could apply for, but they'd need to own it. CPO's can be involved and expensive. The Council need to offer market value, which is debatable and the secretary of state is obliged to favour the owner in any dispute.
A bloke I work for about 15 years ago wanted to buy it and applied for planning to turn it into a hotel, he said at the time it would regenerate the whole area, like he did with Waterfront, Hull City Council turned it down, the rest is history. Hull City Council are solely to blame for the lack of any investment in this City
