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Livermore tests positive for Cocaine

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  1. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    Typical, it's always the fans that suffer, but why pick on the fat kid?
     
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    WTF, I'm on the 5-2 diet.
     
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  3. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    This is what the FA rule book says:

    The presence of a Prohibited Substance or its Metabolite or Marker in a Player’s Sample

    3. The presence of a Prohibited Substance or its Metabolites or Markers in a Sample provided by a Player is prohibited unless the Player establishes that the presence is consistent with a Therapeutic Use Exemption that has been granted to the Player. The presence of any quantity of a Social Drug or its Metabolites or Markers in a Sample provided by a Player is prohibited both In Competition and Out of Competition.

    1. (a) Sufficient proof that an Anti-Doping Rule Violation has been committed pursuant to Regulation 3 is established by either of the following: the presence of a Prohibited Substance or its Metabolites or Markers in the Player’s “A” Sample where the Player waives analysis of the “B” Sample and the “B” Sample is not analysed; or, where the Player’s “B” Sample is analysed and the analysis confirms the presence of the Prohibited Substance or its Metabolites or Markers found in the Player’s “A” Sample.
    2. (b) It is a Player’s duty to ensure that no Prohibited Substance(s) or its Metabolites or Markers enters his body, and a Player is therefore strictly responsible for any Prohibited Substance or its Metabolites or Markers found to be present there. It is not necessary that intent, fault, negligence or knowing Use on the Player’s part be demonstrated in order to establish an Anti-Doping Rule Violation pursuant to Regulation 3. A Player’s lack of intent, fault, negligence or knowledge is not a valid defence to a charge that an Anti-Doping Rule Violation has been committed pursuant to Regulation 3.
    3. (c) Subject to Regulation 3(d) the detected presence of any quantity of a Prohibited Substances or its Metabolites or Markers in a sample will constitute an Anti-Doping Rule Violation.
     
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  4. Steven Toast

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    Again, this is total BS, who the hell do you think you are to make those kinds of assumptions? Do you honestly think that in a sector that is dedicated to helping children learn and prepare for life is more interested in their own integrity than their jobs? The majority of teachers care; most work 60 odd hours a week under increasingly pressured circumstances to make sure their pupils get the most from their education. The idea that they get 'all that holiday' is a perpetuated myth. We get about 2 weeks of Summer sandwiched between tying up loose ends from last year and prep for the new year. Christmas is often spent marking and prepping for term, ditto Easter and half terms. We work hard to make sure the next generation fulfil their potential, don't you dare try and belittle a profession you seemingly researched via the Daily Mail.

    And the story you're referring to is one isolated incident in recent times and even then you've exaggerated it (the only reference to teachers 'knowing about it came from...yup, the Daily Mail). The teacher's suspcions were raised on the way back from a trip to the US, a few days later, the pair went missing so it's not like there was a conspiracy or cover up. As soon as it came to light the press were all over it but I imagine the staff were very concerned for the student's whereabouts, not concerned about their jobs.
     
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    Double post, sorry.
     
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    I agree there would have to be acceptance that there was indeed a problem.

    Adictions certainly manifest themselves in many ways. So that is a good argument actually even though you said I might be right. It's a hard argument to argue against that you just made but if we take a larger look at people like Lance as in Bonds, McGuire, Sosa, Rodriguez, Giambi, etc I find it harder to see that as a pattern of addicts and not a pattern of Americans using sports enhancing drugs to gain a tactical advantage. Still one could say that environment of American sports takes young kids and turns them into sports addicts. When I played baseball and I played in the18 year old World Series, I played on TV, in front of 10,000 person crowds all over the U.S., everyone took poppers it wasn't thought of negatively at all and one could argue that an addiction to using tools like that could develope.
     
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  7. Amin Yapusi

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    Morphene.

    It is essentially heroin.

    And where the **** has all this bullshit about teachers come from? Can't it **** off elsewhere?
     
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    That one to but the one I was thinking of controls bipolar disorder and other mental disorders.
     
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  9. Amin Yapusi

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    Have a look at the Anti Doping part of the FA rule book. All these questions are answered. Generally urine tests although blood tests can be taken as well. There's a load of waffle about the results and the procedure they go through, which I couldn't be arsed to read, but I'm bemused it took so long to come back when a drug test can give you results within minutes. Perhaps you can have a go at digging some answers for me? <laugh>
     
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    I think I may have bipolar, when our lass is out I'm as happy as ****, and then I realise she's with the debit card and I come over morbidly sad. Should I see someone?
     
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  11. Amin Yapusi

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    That's amphetamine your thinking of.
     
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    Because Muggins McBullshit thought it'd be nice to have a pop so I set him/her/it straight.

    Bad Jake, Bad.

    There.
     
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  13. ellewoods

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    Yea that's what it test positive for, the type of medication I was thinking of is called Trcyclic Anti-Depressents.
     
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    Na just your banker to put a spending limit on her card.
     
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  15. Amin Yapusi

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    I believe athletes are banned from using them anyway.
     
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    I don't seriously think anyone could set him/her/it straight but you made a half decent attempt. <ok>
     
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    It's possible, I thought the original poster was asking a general question about false positives. I also imagine they would have asked Jake if he was on any medication.
     
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    He's certainly contributed to me feeling like I've been taking downers this season.
     
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    What's the bet the random testers pop up after the Spurs game and test the whole squad? They'd be bricking it.
     
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  20. BrAdY

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    its pretty obvious whod be clean and whod be a suspect
     
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