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Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by johngalleyfan2, May 8, 2015.

  1. BrightredRickster

    BrightredRickster Well-Known Member

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    Frankly I am wholly with Banksy on this.
    Your political theory is full of holes, and worse still you seem to have absolutely no conscience about anyone less than 100% solvent and sorted.
    Indeed, you give the impression you neither care nor acknowledge the existence of such people.
    The result is that although we support the same football team (it takes all sorts) there is no other common denominator between me and you.
    You MUST be a Tory
     
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  2. LARED

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    If my political theories are wrong then why did the Tories get in again ? Clearly the majority agree that they are doing a reasonable job. I am not unsympathetic with those down on their luck or disabled I just live in the real world which states everything has to paid for. Still politics have nothing to do with Banksy attitude. I choose to challenge things that as a customer I am not happy with as I believe that is my right. It is by listening to what your customers want that any business survives. Many things with Bristol Sport are not right and need challenging. Others choose to think that just because we won the League that all is well. You don't have to agree with me you can just ignore me. If however you tell me to XXXX off just because we disagree all that does is perpetuate the argument. I incidentally have a family member who is an alcoholic and I have helped him turn his life around by giving him support and not money. Also a step daughter with three kids on benefits who is now out of debt because I showed her the way. Life is what you make it . Too much in life is about blaming someone else for your mess
     
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  3. BrightredRickster

    BrightredRickster Well-Known Member

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    Hard nose, hard heart
    That's the easy way.

    Why should The Rich be helped to get richer at the expense of the poor ? I would rather see the NHS staff get it all than some bloated public school Tory
     
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  4. LARED

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    I can see from another thread viz I am having a gap year - well, more of a gap decade really - and living on the Cote d'Azure. When I say living, I mean I drive 30 miles to the coast every day and spend it on the beach. Sound idyllic doesn't it - well it is !
    It seems that you are not exactly roughing it . Presumably you are taking time off and enjoying yourself through the fruits of your previous hard work. If so well done. But don't make out that you are some sort of altruistic saint. Life is tough but its what you make it.
     
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  5. BrightredRickster

    BrightredRickster Well-Known Member

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    I am not speaking for me, I have lived alongside many that are having a very hard time, many in the north of England that are on their knees thanks to your autocratic government.
    Believe it or not Lared, there are some people that don't think/speak/vote just for their own, personal good.
    But I do have many reasons to feel personally that those who vote Tory are not seeing the bigger picture, just the picture they want to see.
    Based upon what you have said already in this thread I am in no doubt you conform to that stereotype
     
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  6. LARED

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    That's fair enough but what's the answer? You cant satisfy all of the people all of the time. Give them money and they want more. This world is full of inequality and this country is by no means innocent . Much of the standards we enjoy are based on our exploitation of others. The problem is that the likes of ISIS are now showing that they can fight back and we as a species will inevitably end up destroying one another. I always remember my first presentation as an auditor when I identified a major security problem and the gentleman came back at me by saying I don't want to know the problem I want to know the answer. Fortunately I had it. So I put to you this question what is the answer to the inequalities in the world? In my experience throwing money at it is not the answer. As incidentally Gary J found out. Still that's enough of politics as that and religion will always divide opinion. I respect your opinion although I don't agree with it. I incidentally note that Bristol now has all women MPs. Well done girls
     
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  7. banksyisourhero

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    Just **** off you boring, odious, small minded, over inflated ego, poor excuse for a man..
     
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  8. BrightredRickster

    BrightredRickster Well-Known Member

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    By giving people a blanket safety net to ensure they are not crashing out of the game with no hope.
    Like what Labour created with the NHS, that thing which the Tories are all too keen to sell off or run into the ground.

    up until now people dying on the streets because they couldn't afford the medical bills was something that was peculiar to the States, or some third world area. Not now Toryboy is back in town

    You ask what the solution is ? Well eventually it comes down to the personal conscience of the individual, as it always has. Trouble is, these days there is very little personal conscience around. Its been swamped and puked out by consumerism, fear of fanaticism and fear of failure.

    Everybody everywhere, keep watching the skies lol
     
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  9. BrightredRickster

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    By giving people a blanket safety net to ensure they are not crashing out of the game with no hope.
    Like what Labour created with the NHS, that thing which the Tories are all too keen to sell off or run into the ground.

    up until now people dying on the streets because they couldn't afford the medical bills was something that was peculiar to the States, or some third world area. Not now Toryboy is back in town

    You ask what the solution is ? Well eventually it comes down to the personal conscience of the individual, as it always has. Trouble is, these days there is very little personal conscience around. Its been swamped and puked out by consumerism, greed, fear of fanaticism and fear of failure.

    Everybody everywhere, keep watching the skies lol
     
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  10. LARED

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    There you go again. Your answer to everything is to tell people to xxxx off. You don't want debate you want everyone to agree with you.
     
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    Thats right.. so **** off, like you keep promising.. You have come on here using my name, not the other way around.. I don't wish to hear your opinions or debate with you as I find you to be a distasteful human being..

    Now go back to your obscurity and leave this forum to the peaceful, humorous and interesting debate we had without you.. You add nothing.
     
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  12. LARED

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    I suspect that you and Banksy are sat there in your mortgage free houses , with a new car, kids at universities and taking your one or two foreign holidays a year whilst claiming to be non capitalists. That's fine because you had the aspiration to do the best for your family, but I suspect you do little direct to help people less well off than yourself other than blame the government. The message is of course you are the government . If you don't like them vote them out. I for my part have donated a £20k retinal screening unit to the RUH, given over 20 new computers to local schools, worked with drugs offenders and raised £4k for local projects (including the KWADS and the Southmead project) and have served as a trustee for a national charity. So I am quite happy that while I have lived a life in which I have chosen to better myself that I have done my bit for those less fortunate than I. The problem is that despite all the effort most recipients don't even say thank you, they expect it. If that makes me an odious person for simply stating my point of view then so be it
     
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  13. LARED

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    The problem is that while you may wish to be one your are not a moderator. I have in this thread said nothing offensive other than state my views on what will always be a contentious subject i.e. politics. You simply don't get it do you if people don't agree with you, you simply lash out
     
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    I have come to the conclusion that you are not very well.
     
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    Rickster
    Might it be 'your political theory is full of holes'. Just asking.
    Anyway how is life on the Cote d'Azure ?
    Did you have a job in the private or public sector ?
    Whatever, you're not a Poacher turned Gamekeeper.
    Are you ?
     
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    POOR OLD FARAGE...he just cant win.. resigns, not accepted, stays on "not the thing to do" so will he or will he not
     
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    As I have said before I believe in the will of the majority of British people when they vote in an election and win and the right of the losers to challenge again next time but if this thread develops into a boring dirge it will be deleted regardless of opinion.
     
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  18. BrightredRickster

    BrightredRickster Well-Known Member

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    No I think my political theory is about right
    Why does everyone think that you must have a sack full of money to live anywhere but England ?
    I am a musician.
     
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  19. Mind the gap!

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    just because you have money doesn't make you a capatilist. The whole point of taxes is that everyone pays their fair share and then everyone is able to use the facilities when needed regardless of background. I agree with Ricksterrickster that people are too up themselves and do not look out for others in need.

    Thanks to the Tories my generation will have

    No human rights
    Expensive houses to pay for
    Student debt
    Expensive utility bills
    Expensive transport
    And a load of other problems caused by both selling stuff off for short term gain and the rich having too much power.

    And FairPlay LARED for the charity work, but not everyone is in that position to be generous. That is why the rich should do there bit instead of weldpfare cuts crippling the most vulnerable in society.
     
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  20. LARED

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    My whole point is that many people come from the working class and aspire to and get to middle class whatever that means but still remain working class in their heads. I agree with the fact that tax should be fair but the facts are that "the rich" pay an appropriate amount of income tax now (but most people don't know it). As regards the rest

    • houses are supply and demand and we create the demand
    • students who should pay to keep them as non tax payers? Some courses are essential for society whereas others are useless from an ongoing working perspective
    • Energy at least we have got it for the time being
    • No human rights (just look at the situation in North Africa and look at this thread as in other parts of the world you would be shot for expressing a view

    Most of us don't know we are born, appreciate it
     
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