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Really Hate Conservatives (RHC ), THE FUTURE FOR BRITAIN

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  1. Garlic Klopp

    Garlic Klopp Well-Known Member

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    Following the General Election, and after accepting we have 5 years of Conservative rule, what would you want them to do to move Britain forward. We must accept they are not going to boost welfare spending, punish tax avoiders, reduce VAT or do anything for the lower paid.

    Do you think they will stick to the income tax reforms the Lib/Dems claimed they had to force through.

    All suggestions welcome, even from the charming, rustic retreat that is The Cheese.
     
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  2. Page_Moss_Kopite

    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Warrington will soon be just another district of the Conservative's proposed Northern Economic Powerhouse(Manchester) so RHC will be well pleased.
     
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  3. Bump up the bedroom tax by 2,000%
     
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  4. BobbyD

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    Disclaimer...i did not write this.




    For those of you reciting the 'Tories defend the rich' argument, read this. It's worth it, I assure you.

    Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all ten comes to £100...
    If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes, it would go something like this...
    The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
    The fifth would pay £1.
    The sixth would pay £3.
    The seventh would pay £7..
    The eighth would pay £12.
    The ninth would pay £18.
    The tenth man (the richest) would pay £59.
    So, that's what they decided to do..
    The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve ball.
    "Since you are all such good customers," he said, "I'm going to reduce the cost of your daily beer by £20". Drinks for the ten men would now cost just £80.
    The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes.
    So the first four men were unaffected.
    They would still drink for free. But what about the other six men?
    The paying customers?
    How could they divide the £20 windfall so that everyone would get his fair share?
    They realised that £20 divided by six is £3.33. But if they subtracted that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man would each end up being paid to drink his beer.

    So, the bar owner suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by a higher percentage the poorer he was, to follow the principle of the tax system they had been using, and he proceeded to work out the amounts he suggested that each should now pay.
    And so the fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% saving).
    The sixth now paid £2 instead of £3 (33% saving).
    The seventh now paid £5 instead of £7 (28% saving).
    The eighth now paid £9 instead of £12 (25% saving).
    The ninth now paid £14 instead of £18 (22% saving).
    The tenth now paid £49 instead of £59 (16% saving).
    Each of the six was better off than before. And the first four continued to drink for free. But, once outside the bar, the men began to compare their savings.
    "I only got a pound out of the £20 saving," declared the sixth man.
    He pointed to the tenth man,"but he got £10!"
    "Yeah, that's right," exclaimed the fifth man. "I only saved a pound too. It's unfair that he got ten times more benefit than me!"
    "That's true!" shouted the seventh man. "Why should he get £10 back, when I got only £2? The wealthy get all the breaks!"
    "Wait a minute," yelled the first four men in unison, "we didn't get anything at all. This new tax system exploits the poor!"

    The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.
    The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine sat down and had their beers without him. But when it came time to pay the bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough money between all of them for even half of the bill!

    And that, boys and girls, journalists and government ministers, is how our tax system works.

    The people who already pay the highest taxes will naturally get the most benefit from a tax reduction.
    Tax them too much, attack them for being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore.

    In fact, they might start drinking overseas (Thailand!) where the atmosphere is somewhat friendlier.
    David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
    Professor of Economics.

    For those who understand, no explanation is needed.For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.
     
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  5. this was doing the rounds five years ago when the Tories first got back in <ok>
     
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  6. saintanton

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    Simplistic, deeply flawed analogy.
    And if you don't understand why, there's no point in explaining. <laugh>
     
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  7. BobbyD

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    Touche :D
     
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  8. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Not a ****ing chance.
     
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  9. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    This ^ <ok> Couldn't be arsed reading the ****ing tome <laugh>
     
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  10. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    Yeah that should raise enough to cover the cost of the Lords' champaign bill every year<ok>
     
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  11. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Think you may be getting campaign and champagne a little mixed up <laugh> hic.
     
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    Page_Moss_Kopite Well-Known Member

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    Every chance mate, the Tories want Manchester to financially rule all within a 20 mile radius of Manchester town hall.

    That's Warrington up the Swanny.<whistle>
     
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  13. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    In that case, it should be safe <ok>
     
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  14. Jürgenmeiʃter

    Jürgenmeiʃter Top top top top top flirt

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    So if you're rich you can drink the nice beer at £ 59 rather than Carling at £ 1. Lol, very funny, I will tell this to my friend
     
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    <laugh> ffs<doh>

    The word Campaign is always floating about my head, had to happen eventually <laugh>
     
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  16. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    1. Dr is right not all beers are equal

    2. there is one vital thing missing. the poorest 4 should be taxed thus stopping them from becoming alcoholic
     
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  17. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    Really? <laugh>
     
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    Yep, these past weeks I have been re reading the Emperor series by Conn Iggulden, campaigns campaigns campaigns <laugh> Plus all this election crap
     
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  20. Treble

    Treble Keyser Söze

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    My mrs has already done that! :(
     
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