I have an issue with the current state of some unions. But recognise the important historic role they have played in the social development of our country. As it stands unions often act with low support from there members and use over the top methods for unfair demands. I'm sure there are unions doing great work but there are also large unions that hold the country to ransom unfairly. It's definitely not a cut and dry, unions are good or unions are bad issue. It very much depends on which union it is and how they conduct themselves.
You've obviously missed me mentioning that I'm on a wind up, but for this bit, maybe not so much. Historically correct. Now, for especially teachers striking, is selfish. Let's say a teachers union strikes because they are getting less than 2% ABOVE inflation pay rise, whilst most private sector workers have had no pay rise for years? That means to your average family with kids, that they then have to pay for child care or take (sometines) unpaid annual leave to take care of the kids, because the selfish ****s only think of themselves. Whilst many fair teachers don't even actually want to. Just an example of real life.
I'm just glad that people who are anti union have employers who have excellent employment standards.Obviously these people will never be involved in an accident due to their employer's negligence,will never be dismissed illegally and are given at least the minimum in statutory holidays.
Well i work for the civil service and I've been screwed over with pay freezes, crappy 1% pay increases, increases in pension payments which make the !% redundant and big job losses and endless restructuring, while having the right to refuse you redundancy. So good on those with strong unions who get a proper wage, as ours is as weak as sh1t.
Are you talking about the Teachers Assistants (who are doing full teaching work) who are on £12K a year - how dare they ask for a living wage!?!? Shame on them!
Race to the bottom? Pass. As for the private sector workers having no pay rise for years, that's clearly not true across the board. Private sector wage increases are actually higher on average at the moment and that's including all of the unskilled staff at the bottom. It's not a fair comparison and it's still not enough to point in the direction that the Tories want. Bankers taking massive bonuses and dodging tax on it, then pointing out that their pay is down on average because they stiffed their normal staff is standard. They screwed the world economy and are still raking it in, while the politicians make everyone else pay for their ****-ups. Your accusations of selfish behaviour could have far easier and more deserving targets.
Why didn't our government have the balls to do what Iceland did? Imprison the ****ers who had a major hand in the financial crisis, renationalise parts of the banks, let our currency drop in the short-term and then encourage government spending to get us back to where we needed to get to. Iceland are in better shape now than they were in 2008!!
Simple, 'The City' and the big political parties, but mostly the Tories are in each others pockets, very deeply in each others pockets since the Thatcher days - where do you think all these politicians retire to after being voted out?. As a result, notice how the bad press at the bankers only lasted 2 years max, and was instead replaced with savage press articles on immigrants, the poor, those on welfare, the NHS, the BBC, hell even the Scots got attacked (at least until the establishment wanted them to vote NO, and promised them the earth and delivered nothing). None of the above benefit the ruling class in the slightest, yet all are apparently ruining the country more than the Financial Sector that got us into this mess, and the tax dodging rich and corporations that cost enough to make up the NHS shortfall in funding...
New Labour scum. Very different to old Labour. The Tories were screwed after the shambles of the 1992 election and it was realised that even another load of crap by the media wasn't going to get them back in, especially after Murdoch gave the game away. The party and the country were in a state, so an alternative was needed. Tony Blair and his followers ditched Clause IV, pushed a virtually Tory line and got the backing of The Sun and their ilk. Do what a small number of very rich people want you to do and the election's yours. Don't toe the line and you'll be accused of everything they can possibly think of, including utterly contradictory things. Miliband was both utterly ruthless and completely spineless, apparently. How the **** does that work?
I was at the 1994 Labour conference when Blair announced the ditching of Clause 4.I left the Labour Party not long after.
"To secure for the workers by hand or by brain the full fruits of their industry and the most equitable distribution thereof that may be possible upon the basis of the common ownership of the means of production, distribution and exchange, and the best obtainable system of popular administration and control of each industry or service". The original Clause IV before the duplicitous Tony Blair got his hands on it.
You should take up comedy for a living. Unions are a throwback to an age long since past. They are now a refuge for lazy bastards who think the world owes them a living. Just like many of you seem to think judging by some of the claptrap you post on the subject. A worker is offered a job and a contract that outlines the terms of employment. The worker can take it or leave it. Picketers, rioters and all other anarchists should be subject to tear gas, baton charges, rubber bullets and water cannon, before being rounded up and imprisoned for very long spells of hard labour. The state owes you NOTHING. If you want something, get some self respect, put your begging bowls away and go earn a living like I and many other decent, productive members of society do.
You already do. Your life is the biggest joke around. Sorry, I couldn't resist. This is wrong in so many ways. No point in me arguing against this though because I've already stated before on several occasions why you're wrong and you still keep saying it. May as well be talking to a brick wall. Congratulations. You are officially the 21st Century version of Mussolini. The state does owe people something when they exploit hard labour and people can barely afford to pay their rent and to put food on the table, when they bend over for multinationals to outsource production to other countries where people have virtually no established human rights whilst lowering the corporation tax, strip people of employment in a job where they can earn a living wage and then putting them on zero hour contracts, slowly chipping away at welfare for people that are genuinely disadvantaged. John McDonnell, the MP for Hayes and Harlington, said that tax dodging in the UK is around £120 billion, that he knew of. Implying there could be more. To put this into context, benefit fraud is around £1bn. If you think people on benefits are the problem, and if you look at the statistics most of them genuinely do have a form of disability which prevents them from working properly, you really need to question yourself as a human being.
This guy is either on a wind up or is an absolute tool. Either way there's probably no way he'll understand a reasoned argument...
