I don't agree with fines, I don't think it helps and only pushes them further towards insolvency. It's risking our footballing heritage to spite reckless overseas owners. If only there was a way to take clubs off these owners, passing the debts onto them, stripping the club down to it's bare bones and relocating them to the bottom of the pile to rebuild on an even keel. Instead of insolvency and demise of historical clubs.
How many clubs to have played at the highest level ever gone pop, for good? AFC Wimbledon still exist, now in League two, but had to be re-booted hy supporters. it's taken them about 13 years. is there a similar or worse fate on the cards for QPR?
QPR are the perfect example of how clubs on 20,000 gates are dicing with death. Blackpool, Portsmouth, Hull, etc believe that TV money is all it takes ........ sadly, when they get it wrong it's usually serious.
Seems backwards to me too. Surely if they're overspending they're in trouble financially to begin with. Player restrictions or docked points would make far more sense in my eyes.
How to punish clubs though, that's the problem ....... everything affects the supporters but that, in a way, is too bad. Most supporters of Hull, Newcastle, etc welcomed the 'money men' with open arms expecting the best. If the worst happens then how loudly can they moan?
Can they not fine the directors instead of the clubs though lads? Anything to not stamp on over a century of history just spite some foreign money bag who's only been there two minutes.
That is why we should go to 63,000 and I will pay £1000 for a season card if we sign players like Bale etc. 40,000 to bring in an extra £40m plus huge concerts, from May to July bringing in about £50m extra per season, come on Ellis let's make this club huge.
Look on it as capitalism gone mad. You might see it differently Funky. They're spending money they don't have and someone ultimately has to pay. The fans are the collateral damage, but the owners and creditors don't give a **** about them. Until good club management is seen to be universally the norm, then fine the buggers who don't play by the rules!
Would you pay for my £1000 season card.? Or my sons? ****ing idiot QPR had a massive problem when bought by a money person. They have little income and splashed out stupid cash on wages for players. Rio Ferdinand to name but one. Way way past it. Great player in his time but payday was all he saw. We wild all go for a few million a year to set ourselves up but QPR pushed the boat out way further than they could ever afford and they'll pay for it. Good riddance from the PL but I agree with funky saying they should be simply made to start again. Not insplvency
So you and a few of your high earning mates will be alright Like the vast majority of young lads, the heart and soul of the fan base, can pay that sort of season ticket. Meanwhile, back on planet earth....
I just think football clubs are historic, like listed buildings, if someone knocks one down they've got to put it back how it was regardless of cost. In football, if a club is ran into the ground through foolish spending, instead of knocking it down they should be making the owners put it back the way they was at their expense. Make the creditors chase the owners and not the clubs I say. See how they want run clubs into the ground if it's going to effect their other business interests and assets.
No mate, football clubs are just businesses. Tradition counts for **** all. There's no room for sentiment in business. Just ask Darlington, Southport and other badly nab aged clubs over the years. No one and no business has the right to exist to the extent of others. If QPR goes tits up, it's because they owe money to many, many companies, some big, some small, including small family-run businesses. I'm sure if QPR owed you 10-15 grand over the last few years, you'd be at your wits end trying to get by, waiting for them to cough up! There'll be a lot of small businesses around Loftus Rd who are cursing QPR right now.
I know that mate, I'm saying they shouldn't been seen like that and they should be protected as historical heritage. A club over a century old can be dissolved to nothing in a couple of years but a foreign owner using it as disposable hobby. That imo is wrong wrong wrong on every level. I don't care how it is now, it's wrong. No non citizen should be allowed to march into this country and piss our heritage up the wall, no British citizen should be neither. Don't give a **** about business, half these ****s are even treating them like a business anyway. They're cancer to our game.
That's just an inevitable consequence of the global society we live in today mate. No industries or sports are immune to it. You can't afford to let **** like that get to you. It'll just **** your head up. It doesn't make it right, or wrong, It just is what it is.
Stop telling me how it is! I know how it bloody is! I'm going off line for a while. I'm feeling quite patronized by people who can't recognize that I'm just pondering the morality of the matter. I'm not an idiot, I can see how it is.
Possibly they were blinded by their unexpected, or undeserved, promotion last season and appear to have gone for broke - which they duly achieved. I must admit to not being too far into understanding FFP, but accountants at the mega clubs seem to be able get around it, leaving it a shame for those clubs that over react to be picked up quicker for their misdemeanours leading to possible closure.
