Off Topic Great Britain General Election May 7th 2015.

Think it? I may be wrong but that is what I saw from the news yesterday.

Not so much that tories will be in government, but the idea that two major parties will lose such significant numbers that it could negatively affect one and positively affect the other.

 

What's worse for Labour is that there is nobody of leadership material (no better than Ed Miliband imo).

Why not make David Miliband leader? Would that look bad?

 

Have to get back to parliament.

 

Yep. Do you think it would get a lot of bad press if he did take over from his brother?

Also on another note, would ppl have a bit more faith in the tories had David Davies been their leader. I think I would have as he seems a man of principle.

 

You've got to roll with it. You've got to take your time. You've got to say what you say and don't let anybody get in your way...

 

Meant everyone on here.

 

No. His brother resigned.. nothing can be held against him in my opinion.. except for his pride.

 

Not what you said

#apologyaccepted

 

David Milipede should have been the leader instead of Ed in the first place. The far left and the unions ****ed their own party up its arse by getting Unsteady Eddy in as leader for this election

They should know that the way to play the political game these days is to publicly just tow that centrist centre line and don't shift your politics too far to one side. The Tories - and by this I mean the general public face and PR approach of the party - did it well in this campaign. To the general public and average voter who will only really follow politicians and parties through shallow media coverage you have to conceal your true political intent, and certainly the more extreme but still influential right/leftist factions within the party, with a coverall of neutrality, centrism and play The Third Way card. Even if that's not what you actual plan is once in power. And god knows we've all seen what provisional, unstable things election manifestos are.

Labour are currently in a mess and have been for the whole election campaign. They currently don't know what they are and so of course never managed to define that for the voting populace. This seems to be a perennial characteristic of the left, or maybe just of the main opposition party in this country, whereas the Tories and the right just grow more confident and arrogant, even in their own confusion.

 

Cameron faces his first major challenge this afternoon as Villa play West Ham. Who should he support after claiming to support both during his election campaign?

Being a politician I bet he buys one of those half and half scarves and dithers

 

Which club does he supports today after all nothing to lose?.

 

The half and half scarf is a good political analogy. You have to be the line that's the divide in the middle of the scarf. Not either side of it. That's how you win a UK election, play it straight down the middle. In public.

 

Pedantic batard

 

I think it's fairly obvious I'm a dyed in the wool socialist, but I had little time for Hatton. For me, he was the opposite side of the same coin.

 

In all serious, you're entitled to your view as much as any of us. However, you say Cameron has done a lot for the country in his last term- I'd be interested if you could make a list of those improvements. I suspect you wouldn't get too much further than "improving the economy"- and that, I'm afraid, is a complete myth.

 

To be honest this is the first time I've really even looked at things. Last election I was 20 and could t give a ****.

Even this year I haven't really taken a huge interest so I can't give a really informed opinion. All id say is in last 5 years I and a lot of people I know are in stable jobs, received salary increases each year, bought a property and the amount when tax kicks in is higher so earning more.

 

I agree but was thinking of the goading he'll get from the press and tories alike. "One brother failed we now got the other one" and a load of questions to him about Ed.
I think David Miliband are Labour's best bet.

 

Ok, mate. I can't remember if I took much more interest in it at your age. It's your world we're making though- my generation is on its way out.
Come back in 10 years (if I'm still around ) and we'll see how you feel then.

Just a point on the economy, btw. Gordon Brown made a grave error when he first became Chancellor by claiming he could break the boom and bust cycle. He couldn't, it was beyond his control. These days we have an interactive global economy and individual governments have only a limited influence on it.
Brown benefited initially from an overall improvement, but then came a cropper over the next recession. He falsely claimed credit for the improvement and so was falsely blamed for the decline.
The first part has happened with Cameron, he is trying to take credit for something which would have happened whether he was there or not.
It's a Thatcherite myth that the Tories are better with the economy- they can massage certain figures to look that way, but only by cutting services to the people that need them most or by selling off things which aren't theirs to sell in the first place.
Look at the recent "austerity" measures- do you think the well-off were the ones feeling the pinch? It's always the ones with the least to give that give the most.

 

^^^

The tories would have done pretty much the same as labour had they been in power (in terms of global banking and economy) and Britain would have suffered the same fate as under Gordon Brown. The recession was a global one where all those countries who drank from the trough, all suffered.

 

But a half and half scarf there will just look like a regular scarf? #claretandblue