Yeah, good luck with that. Every political vote is represented to the public in a way that suits the group doing the presentation. If opponents of a voting system could convince you that it's introduction would summon intergalactic space Nazis, then they'd give it a go.
Most of the voting public may not be educated enough to think the way you do according to some people. Yet you all berate the educated rich, who happen to vote Tory. Av or not was given as an option by the government and we as a nation voted.
Ok maybe not all, but as a general principle the richer people are educated and the people on lower incomes are less intelligent. Not saying that is the right thing and circumstances dictate that, but generally it is true. If you are clever and hard working, you get a job, then promotions, then more money. If you are stupid and lazy you claim benefits.
Well that's a crock of ****. What really happens is that those with more money get given more opportunity, from education right through to employment. To equate less money with less intelligence is complete bollocks.
The real problem with the deficit and subsequent austerity isn't a lack of money. The wealth is there, it's just concentrated in the hands of a few instead of being spread across society as a whole. The idea that free market capitalism offers a 'trickle down' system of wealth is proven bollocks. the wealth is amassed by the rich and the divide between them and the poor grows even bigger.
I think thats a shockingly narrow view point - so you think only lazy people have been made unemployed in this recession and have to claim benefits, and that the majority of rich people are well educated when there's just as much chance of a rich kid flunking out of eton as there is a poor kid dropping out of a comprehensive. not to mention all the degree holders (some multiple degree and/or masters holders) who are working zero hour contracts, call centre jobs because they cant get a job. But I suppose thats the tory view point, if your at the bottom and vilnerable, its not because you need help, it's because your a lazy waster who needs to be looked down on.
That is your opinion, not fact. Some people prefer zero hour contracts. Unemployment has declined since labour almost bankrupted us. And yes, just to annoy you and piskie, I may be from an older generation that believes if you work hard you should get rewarded, if you don't, then why should I who have worked every day of my life pay my higher tax paying money to support you? Scrap benefits for anyone who hasn't contributed and only give to those whom are literally unable to work through disability or illness or age. P.S. this will be popular...
Why assume that I don't ? That's not the point I'm making. Plenty of people work hard. It's the opportunities that are given to those who have more privilege which determines how far up the social ladder you're able to climb.
I have no issues with any person who works hard in whatever field. Just the lazy labour blair generation who believe that should have it all, now. Why should anyone who has worked every day in their adult life pay for people who cannot be arsed to?
Why pigeon-hole the 'Blair' generation ? there have been lazy ****s, rich and poor for generations. The Royal family are a classic example. Elevated to power and wealth on spurious claims and they've been leeching off the working man for generations. Yet most people seem to want to lick their arses and hold them up as a bastion of aspiration. Stockholm Syndrome.
Id say your response is a crock. yes a small percent prefer 0 hour contracts, i was one of them, I worked bar jobs, hospitality jobs, and even cleaning jobs to pay my way through uni - it worked for me. But the vast majority of people in todays climate need security, access to sick pay and other perks of being a fully employed member of staff, such as the knowledge that you'll still have a job tomorrow, or that you wont be sacked if your too ill to go in. i work hard and believe in hard work as well, having at some points held down 3 jobs at the same time while completing my degree. And am currently a professional working despite a disability. But hard work doesn't stop you getting made unemployed, or stop Cameron getting rid of factories like Remploy and putting hundreds/thousands of hard working disabled people out of work while cutting their benefits so they can barely afford to look after themselves, let alone compete in the jobs market against able bodied people. Just because your hard working doesn't mean that you'll be able to walk straight into another job seeing as the stagnated state our economy is in now means that theres around a 100 applicants for every job. It's nice to know that there's a safety net there so people aren't forced into abject poverty, repossessions, crippling debt or even worse crime. But I suppose if you ever found yourself out of work and there isn't any benefits for you (as more than likely you'll just be lazy if your on the dole) then it'll be a comforting thought to know that no one is paying for you, and you can happily struggle to eat, go to a food bank if your lucky and watch your hiouse dispossed, safe in the knowledge that the system works...
I should add as well that having come out of uni at the worst possible time, as the recession was really hitting, with record (at that point) student debts, and little jobs about. I signed on - it was the only thing that kept my head (just about) above the water, luckily only for 2 months before one of my contacts gave me a job, But I didn't suddenly become a lazy, feckless scounger, just because I had little choices, and no rich mummy or daddy to bail me out. (by the way, my dad was an open cast miner and has worked harder than anyone I've every met, from Deputy Directors to scientists to ICT consultants.) And just because I was a student, didn't mean I was a lazy layabout - I struggled to live off £4,000 a year, and what ever low paid, zero contract work I could get - some times working from 9 in the morning to 4 am, while doing my 3k-8k essays on my off days.
I have a small mortgage, so doubt my house could be "dispossed" whatever That is. If i Lost my job, I'd get another doing anything. But, if I couldn't, at least I have paid shed loads into the system.
really??? you are that confident that if you were ever made redundant, then you'd be a better candidate than any of the other 100 or so candidates, and would interview better than them to guarentee yourself a job? And surely if you tried to work in a different field then there'd be more better qualified people who have recent experience for you to compete in. I've got to say, luck you for having a small mortgage, so that means, because you are alright (assuming you can live on fresh air if you cant get a job), but does that mean that just because other hard working people don't have small mortgages then its ok if they lose their houses if they lose their jobs? Just because your ok
Who knows? I am deliberately winding up, so please don't take too much offence. But yes, I vote for, in order, what is best for me. What is best for my family, what is best for my area, then every other poor ****.
