Off Topic Great Britain General Election May 7th 2015.

Fantastic attitude mate. Really progressive and forward thinking. It's only been historically and contemporarily a major centre of culture, trade, ideas and knowledge in all fields of human endeavour. But I suppose you just see it as being full of national ****ing stereotypes, French people lapping onion soup out of berets and Germans stuffing Bratwurst into lederhosen and feed bird seed to cuckoo clocks.

 

right now cameron has the scots exaclty where he wants them.

they've no power at all and will pay him lots of tax

the scots will actually learn over next 5 years vote for SNP is a vote for nothing. The ony way this vote holds any sway is if its to put labour in power and they would be better off with labour ministers from scotland.

 

hooked....

lets try to reel this one in

 

What a crock of **** British politics is, lose a seat in the general election then get possibly get a ministerial position in the house of lords and never have to face election again.

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/esther-mcvey-lords-conservatives-move-9213643

 

Cameron's victory speech now

 

France is a dog turd economically... its 30 hour week 60 year old retirees will suck the life out of them before long.

germany is far too cautious by far and just wants to lend cahs and demand it back in spades..

Italy is a total basket case

Thank god we didn't go into euro!

And as for the rest? ffs... england hammers them all in innovation and work.

 

****! Normally wouldn't fall for it. But today isn't any other day and RLSoA may be feeling a little bit more sensitive than normal!!

 

prob sucks cameron off during cabinet meetings. only reason i can see to reselect a loser when your party rose but she ****ed up

 

They're going to make a real dogs arse of it over the next 5 years.

Social division will get wider, we've now got geographical division as well, so that'll create it's own problems, with Scotland, the North and the South being politically juxtaposed in a way that it's never been before.

Despite them having a majority, it's a weak majority and they'll need their own back benchers to behave and toe the party line, which will mean that the 1922 committee will have a field day and you'll see Cameron having to kowtow to the far right of his own party and to keep them on board he'll have to keep chucking them a typical far right ****ty Tory policy for them to gnaw on every now and again. So we'll see the full extent of Tory ****tardary in this parliament.

 

you'l find they will just give jobs to the old boys and one they have the jobs they will keep each other in line.... you cannot beat a few choice ministries to keep power bases quiet.

 

They've previously struggled with their own back benchers when they had a decent majority mate, this time they're going to need them all and they'll make sure they get their pound of flesh in return. Mark my words......

 

I agree they'll all want a good pound of flesh no question.

Its down to really which people have enough power base to hold groups together... and i reckon when cameron does a deal with the big boys over who gets to take over and when.

 

Sorry, that was Gerrez with the tax comment, not you. Yea, ideology and reality don't always work well together.

Well labour shouldn't have been so ******ed in letting the unions choose red Ed, he's far too left and weak for the country to handle. Labour should have taken the center ground that's there to be taken - Cameron is about as far to center as his backbenchers will allow him right now.

 

There's been a large segment of the Tory party who have been frustrated for years, with what they saw as a watering down of the Thatcherite policies that they considered to be their pomp.

They've been mumbling and chuntering in the background for years, they'll see this weak majority Govt as their prime opportunity to dust off their tired Tory dogma and push it back to the fore.

Get ready UK, as you've unleashed the beast with yesterdays attrocious decision.

 

One lesson which labour (and the other parties too) should quickly learn is that the electorate has become more sophisticated and more understanding of the issues. If politicians assumed that the public/electorate had a modicum of intelligence and acted accordingly they would have done better IMO.

Nicola Sturgeon is almost a star in Scotland. She behaved like a non-politician. She answered the questions that were asked. She said that austerity had to end and that increased spending had to be paid for. There will mean the deficit taking longer to clear. Tax and borrowing may need to rise.

When the same questions was asked of Ed, what did we get? NEVER a straight answer. Implied in his manifesto was some assumption that borrowing had to rise. The tax increases (mansion tax, non-dom, new rate) was not going to be sufficient. When asked, he and his colleagues never said that borrowing could be increased. Did not even mention the word never mind answer the question. To a sceptical public that was deeply frustrating.

Even when pressed by the interviewer. To make matters worse, Ed said he did not accept that Labour government had overspent. That would have been OK IF the general accepted view was not that's Labour did overpsend in office. We now have the perception that Labour was trying to lie and was trying to con the public.

If Labour (and Tories and others) started to inform the public rather than assume that the public will just accept what they say at face value. After the Uni fees fiasco by the Lib Dems, the public demand clear explanations and can see when questions are not being answered directly.

IMO the next leader will need to build the trust of the public and the best way to do it is to be frank and tell things as they are. If you need to borrow more FFS just say it. People are not stupid anymore.

 

The SNP have vowed to end austerity in Scotland, Cameron has promised them as much autonomy/devolution as is allowed under the current constitution.
Cameron has also promised a further cuts of £12b to the welfare system, the poorer families in England can expect to take the brunt of the Dickensian measures the Tories have planned.

#doomgloomandmoredoom

 

Ed promised to make things better for families, end austerity, reduce cuts, no change in benefits, no pain, maintain expenditure for health and education without any pain.

It was too good to be true and the electorate did not believe him.

 

It's a double edged sword for the Scots, in actual fact this move to devolution will mean they will be able to do more with the taxes they raise from their own population but at the same time be given less hand outs from England. There's no way Cameron will bend over to Sturgeon, even if he wanted to, his backbenchers would never allow it. If Scotland wants federal, it can spend what it earns.

 

its easy as snp to promise all that when they don't really need to deliver.

they can try up there to have thier utopia but they'll have to cut their cloth like everyone else or they can go like italy and be a basket case riddled with debt

 

If Scotland is made to spend what it earns this will make the SNP accountable to the public which may lose some of their support, especially when they realise unicorns are not cheap.