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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by SimonGraysJacket, May 6, 2015.

  1. DMD

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    Nearer two, but it's the events of that and the preceding months that are more relevant, especially the claim of not knowing it had happened until after the event as you've often maintained.

    Lessons should and could have been learned.
     
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    That's something we have discussed recently - simply because we expect to be asked about it soon. The Trust's position is that we can understand why people are doing it because of the various problems between the owners and fans particularly in recent months. We won't promote it but we certainly won't condemn it either. We haven't talked about the booing - but I think most would agree with me that it's bad for the atmosphere, bad for the team and it'd be far more helpful for people of that view to sing up for whatever they do support - Hull Tigers/Allam - rather than boo.

    Again, I don't think it should need clarifying but this is a post by PLT, because I'm reading the board. If you want a formal response from the Trust ask the Trust formally. I would certainly hope that the way I have described our stance is the same as anyone else involved would describe it.
     
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    Sorry for not understanding. So...there were no CTWD committee meetings at all after April 2014 so could not discuss the seat move (had there been any) in May or June or July 2014? As it had all but ceased to exist?
     
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    Have the Trust considered a march from the Lair to the ground on Saturday as a demonstration of support?
     
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    Not that I'm aware of. Support for what? I'm not being daft there; the team, the owners?
     
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  6. originallambrettaman

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    I can't remember when we had meetings between end of the campaign and forming the trust, but if you're really keen to find out, then details of all meetings and what was discussed will be on our website.
     
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    The police rocked up at the start of our last meeting and told us they wouldn't allow us all to march to the ground together, even though we weren't planning to.
     
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    They can rock up all they like, but there's not a lot they can do if people leave at the same time, for the same destination.

    It'd help show Allam it's not just a minority. How many attended the last gathering?
     
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    Was there a meeting straight after Lokren?
     
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  10. BenW

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    I understand why people are unhappy with the owners. But feel its the wrong time to protest until we are safe because i can see the protests getting out of hand with some idoits running on the pitch or something like that. At least u say the trust dont support the allam out protests
     
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    Personal opinion from PLT:

    To some people the off-pitch issues are more important then the Premier League though, possibly the ones who are most anti-Allam and the ones chanting Allam Out songs. In any case I think you're overstating the impact of singing 'City Till I Die' and 'We Want Allam Out' to the players on the pitch; those booing are far more likely to be damaging the team's chances.
     
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    If the booing is affecting the team, do you think alternative ways of demonstrating could be more inclusive and therefore more effective?
     
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    It's hundreds, not thousands, not enough for a significant protest.
     
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    Yes.

    Although really, I don't think the small amount of booing for small periods does affect the team. As I said, it's got to be more likely to affect them than the chanting, but I don't think either have much impact at all really. It's the fans who are suffering in all of this.
     
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    I dont care what league city play in i was a pass holder in div 3 watchin players like jason harris.. But dont want to see off pitch issues damage the team.
    The City Till I Die chant is not a damaging chant. But the allam out chant is causing the unrest between fans, I stand in the north stand and its getting more nasty by the game. All u need is a small group fans looking to cause trouble trying to run on the pitch.
     
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    Yet you had a meeting or a discussion about the disabled passes of one of the original members of ctwd and expressed your support for that. No minutes anywhere for that.
     
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    You said the Trust wouldnt be releasing a statement on the Airco Arena and they havent. Why not? When one of their core principles is to lead dialogue between the council and the club?
    THeres an article on the website with a disclaimer on it.

    Its about time the Trust actually stood up and stood for something instead of being all things to all people hoping to hoover up support.
     
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    Following the FA decision, the first time we discussed anything at a meeting other than forming a trust, was in July...

    http://www.oncloudseven.com/ctwd/CTWD Committee Minutes 2014-02 050714.pdf
     
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    HCST statement on Airco(no disclaimer)..,

    http://hullcitysupporterstrust.com/airco-arena-the-hcst-view/
     
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    Haters gonna hate...
     
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