Exit poll will have 60 doing cartwheels.... Tories have stolen all the liberal seats and snp have massacred labour in Scotland.
IF exit polls are right even if SNP lost every seat to Labour then Labour would have still been behind. Looks like Clegg is going to get another undeserved term, Ed has to go he really doesn't have any likability his brother to make a return and then 5 years from now a different story...
Not sure Clegg will have won his seat, if not the 10 libs may not go into coalition. I can see a Tory minority government, but if that's what happens we are doing it all again in October.
Good point but under the fixed term parliament act, apparently it'll be very difficult to have another election this year.
No it's not. Vote of no confidence, or a legally required piece of business such as budget or queens speech it lost and that's an election. Fixed terms are only about stopping a sitting pm cutting short a term.
Chippy, or anyone, I'm not really into politics, and don't bother even trying to relate to, or understand the mumbo jumbo, but isn't there suppose to be a certain time frame between elections being called? By the way, I am a Tory and I loved Maggie Thatcher, she gave us squaddies a 33% pay rise, very cheap ***s and cheap fuel in Germany, well, why wouldn't you like her.....
This has just made me sick in my mouth. I'm glad you didn't have to endure what the people in the mining towns of the north had to endure. Shes a ****ing horrible **** and the day she died was a great ****ing day.
I agree the mining strikes weren't good for the Country, neither was Scargill, it was Scargill who kept the miners out, not Thatcher. Thatcher appealed to the wives and families about talking to their husbands and getting them to go back to work, they did and Scargill went all quiet. She also brought in the army and the Green Goddesses during the dustbin mens strike, it worked. I know strikes were for reasons back then, but families and kids also suffered when their husbands went on strike, did Scargill care about them? Going by your age fingers I'd say you didn't have a clue either about who suffered in mining towns, and the country.
I agree the mining strikes weren't good for the Country, neither was Scargill, it was Scargill who kept the miners out, not Thatcher. Ask miners about this. They saw people disabling the equipment before shifts to cause accidents (bunged Tory). Scargill was never a politician - he was forced into a position of power because he was sick of his friends loosing limbs. I know strikes were for reasons back then, but families and kids also suffered when their husbands went on strike, did Scargill care about them? I am the child of that movement. My dad was apart of the miners strike - he was later involved in a mine collapse because of a forced change in the way they changed the structuring of the mines. He broke his back - he wasn't parolised (sp?) and used the compensation money to turn our family into upper middle class (used the money to buy a local business that became very successful). She also brought in the army and the Green Goddesses during the dustbin mens strike, it worked. I don't know the dustbin men strike, but I thought I'd take a moment to mention my work colleague and the army. She lost her husband to the war in the Falkland - and I can tell you, she hates people from Argentina (who wouldn't) but she hates Tories more. Going by your age fingers I'd say you didn't have a clue either about who suffered in mining towns, and the country See above. I'm from a mining family that got lucky. My dad has retired in his 40's (now late 50's) because he was a minor and moved on when the collapse happened, we're now probably classed as middle upper class (see the business was successful) but knowing what they went through and the suffering caused by that goverment makes me think you don't have a clue either. You're just making assumptions based on your opinions. I will add my usual - I'm glad we live a democracy and tories have won fair (and square) so I can't change anything (nor would i try too *see the democracy mention*) But to say you're understanding what happened back then and to then vote tory doesn't add up.
I know strikes were for reasons back then, but families and kids also suffered when their husbands went on strike, did Scargill care about them? I'd like to add to this point. I am the "child that suffered" and I'm absolutely fine. Sometimes in life you have to stand up to what you believe is right. I've always taken that on board. People are to soft now, I've been taught not to take **** - tell me that's wrong. People now, don't seem to have that fight.
Thatcher waged a war on the miners, in her first cabinet meeting {1979} she said "we are going to war with the miners", the reason, because of the strikes of the early 70s and the downfall of the Heath government. and to get rid of the unions altogether The thing Scargill got wrong was being led into the strike when Thatcher wanted it And to say that fellow miners were sabotaging equipment to cause accidents is, with respect, a total load of bollocks
I never said fellow miners were sabotaging equipment. My dad said he caught the new "independent advisors" that "monitored" mine safety do it. I'd have no reason not to believe him.
