Am I missing something, with how well Ospina has played since he has had a good run in the side? All the pundits who know much about football, than myself keep going on that we need a good goal keeper like Cech to win/challenge for the title. I thought we have an excellent one already, would like to see his stats since he came in for Shezny, ok fair enough not flash or flamboyant, I just think GoalKeeping is not an area we are lacking.....
You could say that about our entire first XI. But we're still miles off the top... somethings has to change if we want to get to the top. It's either players or manager or both.
We're not miles off the top. When mostly fit, our squad is as good as Chelsea's. the 0-0 vs them and our recent form proved that. We lost the season in the first 10 games, where injury, fatigue and world cup hangover destroyed us. We just need to build an entire squad that can compete in all competitions to a high level. And I agree about GK. Ospina is as good as Cech. So is Szczesny, who many people forget was tied with Cech for the golden glove last season. No need to change that at all.
Oh no, please don't tell me you just said that? Especially saying Shezny is as good as Cech? What the heck are you smoking?
I haven't seen ANY top class performances from Ospina this Season. He's been solid and reliable but nothing more. DeGea on the other hand has had multiple World Class performances this year. Saving his team a good number of points. I do think we would be a lot closer to Chelsea with a World Class keeper.
You summed it up, don't get me wrong, i am very happy with Ospina and think he deserves the number one spot, but overall, he hasnt been tested much which is strange, especially with us as how bad our defence was at the start of the season, but we have been so solid he hasnt had much to do in a lot of games....But there were times when he did have some work to do, and didn't look world class when doing it, like against Monaco.
I still think our keepers are fine. Ospina has been solid and since our team stepped up after Christmas hasn't been tested much either. Szczesny in terms of ability is our best GK. He got Golden Gloves last season and saved us many times then. This season he's been in poor form compared to the last but I still feel he sorts his head out and gets a good run of games and he'll be back to his best. Martinez is solid for a 3rd choice option. I wouldn't complain if we went for someone like Cech I just don't see GK as a big priority atm
Chelsea and Jose are not going to sell Cech to us, those ****ers did not even let Demba Ba come to us on a ****ing loan.
I agree completely. Ospina/Szczesny are a top class 1 and 2. Very few teams in Europe have a better pairing.
Some of these comments are mental, and tarred by the tendency to only look at very recent form and ignore poor form as an anomaly. Our team is miles off the top. You can make excuses for injuries if you like, but other teams have had injuries too. If our players are good enough right now then why are we miles off the top? We had some great form at the end of last season too and it made no difference to the start of this season. There always appears to be an excuse to why we've not challenged and how next year will be different and no changes are needed. Ospina as good as Cech? Biased insanity.
Who cares about a 'pair' when pretty much only one goalkeeper players the entire season? Best three clubs in the world who win the big trophies: Bayern, Real and Barca. How many starts have their 2nd choice goalkeepers made? Bayern - 2 apps Real - 10 apps (and both their keepers are average anyway) Barca - 17 apps (but none in the league) 2nd choice goalkeepers are not important. If the 2nd choice goalkeeper was a currently top class goalkeeper, he wouldn't be at your club being 2nd choice for long. Look at Cech for example. This is exactly our problem. Rather than buying top, top class... we bought someone who was '8/10 good' in Ospina. What was the point when we already had someone who was '8/10 good' in Szszszszszszszesny? We just filled a squad position with someone who barely improved our team. The same with Welbeck. Money and wages to achieve the thing we didn't need achieving... filling our squad with filler rather than with top class starting players.
The team isn't miles off the top, saying so just makes you look daft. If you'd told me at the start of the season that, with 5 games left, we'd be favourites for second place and in the final of the FA Cup vs Villa I'd have bitten your hand off. Anyone who wouldn't be happy with that or thinks that means we're "miles off the top" can f*ck off in my opinion. I've seen a clear improvement in the team each of the last two seasons and long may it continue. I actually agree with your comment on our keepers though. I like both, I think both are solid but neither stands out as being exceptional, just good pros. Ospina has had the luxury of joining the team when the entire squad has clicked so has had far less to do than Chessers ever did. I'd be interested to see how well he'd have done if he was playing from the start of the season. As The Bear says I can't recall either player "winning" us games as I can with the likes of Courtois or de Gea and I definitely think both could be upgraded. Personally I'd stick with Ospina as WS' attitude grates on me but I don't see much between them tbh. Cech looks like an easy, affordable upgrade and someone who'd be around for a good 4 years or so at the very least. I can't think of one good reason not to make the move. He's also, somehow, managed to still come across as a nice person after years at that club!
We're 13 points off the top. That's miles off the top. Only Liverpool fans base their opinions of ability based on the sections of a season that suit their own team's form the best.
Keep Ospina, sell Szczesny, sign a top goalkeeper (Lloris, Cech, Leno...). Szczesny hasn't made any progress in his development for a long time and is just an okay goalkeeper, nothing more, nothing less. If we have ambitions to go forward and win the league we can't stand still hoping that Szczesny will all of a sudden grow up and take his job a bit more seriously.
He's been constantly making progress since he's been here culminating in performances that earned Golden Gloves last season. Only this season, where he was mostly average with the performance vs. Southampton being his worst, has he not shown improvement. But you'd think Arsenal fans would learn not to write off players by now after below par seasons when you look at Ramsey, Coquelin, etc...
But he hasn't, last year he was playing at a level that's expected of his abilities, he's never going to be a top player. Jointly winning the Golden Glove, an award for a statistic, doesn't change that. And even if he does come good one day, when will that day be? How long will we have to wait to see him pull off performances like De Gea and Courtois? It's about time he started proving himself, he's been giving plenty of opportunities and never fully capitalised on them. The club can't wait for him, not when Chelsea are a month or two away from splashing millions on world class players that will create an even bigger gap between us.
The main problem is finding a keeper better than the two we already have. There just isn't that many great keepers knocking around. But do we desperately need one? I think what has really made the biggest difference is having a proper DM. This has greatly improved our defence. In the past our defence has created a lot of uncertainty with our keepers but now it looks a lot.better. In reality your keeper should have as less work as possible, if he is busy then your team is not doing a good.enough job. I'd rather we went in for a DM or striker to be honest.
Ospina and Chesney as good as Cech Would be hard pressed to find a more pathetically ridiculous statement in the history of Not606. We wouldn't ideally want to sell to Arsenal, but Mourinho had already come out and said Cech can go where he wants. If he wants to stay in England, or more critically, London, then we would sell to Arsenal.....if they bid for him.
You sound like Maureens best mate. If he's as as good as you say he is then there is no way he would sell him to us, he wouldnt even allow Ba on a loan to us. Also, Cech isnt the force he once was.
