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The bottom 6 and their remaining games .........

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  1. Smug in Boots

    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    "Back to the drawing board Mr Bruce."

    <laugh>

    These aren't good home stats whichever way you look at them,

    Hull City - Arsenal
    Possession
    32% - 68%
    Shots
    8 - 22
    On target
    1 - 9
    Corners
    0 - 5
    Hull seemed to have used up all their fight & adrenalin over the previous two games and looked shot last night.
    Burnley have to win at Hull so will throw everything at them. We know that this is just the kind of game Bruce is prone to losing, If they lose that game they might well finish with the points they have, 34. Their last 2 games are against top teams fighting for something

    I think they'll draw but 35 points would see them above Newcastle on gd. That might be enough to keep them up if Carver's demoralised players fail to get a result in their remaining games. Southampton's defence was the best in the league, until they conceded 2 penalties at Sunderland, so I reckon they'll win 1-0 at Leicester who's winning run can't be sustained imo. I believe a Sunderland win against Leicester would be all that's needed to stay up.

    It looks like Hull or Newcastle for the drop though, I can't see Leicester losing at home to QPR on the last day or Villa failing to beat Burnley.
    Hull truly deserve to go down for this alone ........


    Cheating scumbags apart, I'd be really worried if Sunderland were in the meltdown Newcastle are, it's a total shambles. When they last won a game, against Villa, Cissé scored the goal, they've really missed him. At that time they we're closer to Europe than relegation. Word around the camp fire is that Cissé has had an operation, while he was banned, and it didn't go well although I'm not sure if it was his knee or saliva glands.

    I don't think they can expect any favours from Allardyce in what may be his last game with West Ham.
     
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  2. Lostinvegas

    Lostinvegas Well-Known Member

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    Its quite simple we must win our game in hand? unfortunately its against Arsenal.
     
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    "I'm not sure if it was his knee or saliva glands." - <laugh>
     
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    Smug I blame you entirely for the fact that I googled "cisse injury" and clicked on the first link (failing to notice it was clearly Djibril Cisse it was referring to) and faced with pictures of each of his leg brakes. The one when he was playing for France is horrific to look at.
     
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    Silly ****.
    If Hull beat Burnley and lose to Tottenham and Man U, we end up with 37 points.
    Even being optimistic on your side, and give you a draw at Everton and a win against Leicester, you still need a point from either Chelsea or Arsenal away otherwise you end up on the same points tally as Hull with a worse goal difference.

    Basically if Hull beat Burnley on Saturday and you don't win at Everton, you're probably ****ed unless Benteke gets injured for Villa, or Newcastle lose their last 3 games.
     
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    Smug in Boots Well-Known Member

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    No need to continue commenting after that ........ I wouldn't waste my time reading it <ok>
     
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    haslam Well-Known Member

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    To cut to the chase he finished by saying Sunderland were "****ed" unless "Newcastle lose their last 3 games". So I think he's saying Sunderland are fine.
     
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    If we beat or even draw with Everton and stick Newcastle in the bottom 3 this weekend I think we will be safe, they will certainly crack under the pressure. If they get a draw and we lose it will be the other way round. This weekend is massive.
     
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    West Brom are a bad team to be playing at the moment ... 2 away wins and no goals conceded in the last 3 games.

    While Newcastle are like the Rolf Harris of football, no credible defence <ok>
     
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    Burnley's Duff has had the red card from WHU cancelled so he is available for a blinder against Hull and make two goal line clearances then score the winner from a corner in the 93rd minute.
     
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    Boyd will play a blinder against us. Really not looking forward to this weekend.

    Ignore Smartarse, he's a fool who makes an idiot of himself on our board for his pro Allam views. In fact just laugh at him.
     
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    knowing our luck an OG
     
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    Just take the gallows down will you.
     
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    good track........ gallows pole zeplin
     
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    Sunderland have had some terrible luck this season, not yesterday. We're in with a chance of staying up through a mixture of good luck, determination & Hull & Newcastle somehow managing to force themselves below us. Two home wins, for them, and we'd have been 3rd bottom despite our victory.

    The Toon Army didn't know whether to boo or cheer as their heroes scraped a draw against a team that borrowed Newcastle's flip-flops.
    Bruce, as we know from bitter experience, was always likely to bottle the Burnley game, play an ineffective system & stick with his favourite non-performing players like Huddlestone.

    Burnley, in truth, had nothing to play for except not finishing bottom. Let's hope QPR feel the same next week. If they were to beat Newcastle it could make the last day of the season a straight fight between Hull & Newcastle ......... now wouldn't that be funny?

    You just can't argue with Leicester's form but our's isn't too shabby either. Incredibly, out of nowhere, a draw next week might not be a catastrophe.
    Before yesterday we were all looking at that game as a 'must win' but now it's a 'mustn't lose'. That would put Sunderland on 37 points so, even 2 draws for Hull would see us safe.

    Whatever happens it's possible the third bottom team could go down on goal difference with Newcastle leading that race ..........
    ......... but it could all hinge on our defence at Arsenal & Chelsea <yikes>



    Leicester 36 -13 37
    Sunderland 35 -20 36
    Newcastle 36 -24 36
    Hull 36 -16 34
    Burnley 36 -26 29
    QPR 35 -22 27


    LEICESTER - 37 POINTS
    Sunderland
    (Away) - May 16
    QPR (Home) - May 24

    SUNDERLAND - 36 POINTS
    Leicester
    (Home) - May 16
    Arsenal (Away) - May 20
    Chelsea (Away) - May 24

    Newcastle - 36 POINTS
    QPR (Away) - May 16
    West Ham (Home) - May 24

    HULL - 34 POINTS
    Tottenham (Away) - May 16
    Man United (Home) - May 24

    BURNLEY - 29 POINTS

    Stoke (Home) - May 16
    Aston Villa (Away) - May 24

    QPR - 27 POINTS

    Man City (Away) - May 9
    Newcastle (Home) - May 16
    Leicester (Away) - May 24
     
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    I won't be asking you for any betting tips smartarse:emoticon-0172-mooni
     
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    <doh>
     
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    Ok fair enough.... we ****ed up.

    It's unlikely we will get another point from the 2 remaining games but even so a defeat to Leicester next week will put you right back in there.

    But I don't think will happen now.
     
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    I think we'll draw so 2 draws for Hull wouldn't be enough ....... but I do think we'll get a point at either Arsenal or Chelsea.
     
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    Or both! Arsenal might have Wembley in their heads and Chelsea might blood some of their kids as the Special One I think has suggested. He's arrogant enough to do that and still think they'll win.

    We're hard to beat at the minute and could, just could, go unbeaten the last 3 games.
     
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