Off Topic The QPR Not 606 Rolling Election Poll

Stan, do you think Ms White will get elected? She has some very solid policies

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...y-rant-at-omagh-election-debate-31188915.html

 

I, and I strongly suspect you, would defend her right to spout this drivel, and our own right to mock her mercilessly.

Encouraging that the audience was less than impressed. I'm not sure how prevalent this view is in Northern Ireland (obviously it is in certain pockets of the USA - I'm quite proud that my company played a big role in turning over a piece of anti gay legislation in Indiana a few weeks ago), and I suspect that many who do hold them lead quite strange lives. I had a Northern Irish colleague who was a member of one of these Protestant sects a few years back. He was a lovely bloke (probably too gentle for his job), never talked about his beliefs. His kids were home schooled, and at sales conferences he would retire to his room rather than to the bar, never touched a drop of booze, and didn't want to see the goings on at these events (they were sometimes rather rowdy). I could never square his beliefs with the fact that he had a degree in biochemistry and was clearly an intelligent man. Unlike Ms White, who if she really follwed the Bible, would know that it is not a woman's place to voice an opinion.

 

Heard about that Indiana conscience clause Stan. Summat to do with Chemists refusing to assist in abortions?

I've always found the Hoosier State a little odd considering its in the north. I've been in it a couple of times (bro lives in Ohio) & despite it being very northern, the folks sound southern and appear to be quite Conservative. Its regularly the only red State in the north in Presidential elections.

Indianapolis is a great town though. Nice sports Stadium too

 

Iv just changed my vote back to not voting.

I will give my vote to any of the party's that pledge to introduce the winter alcohol allowance...

 

This one was about businesses being able to refuse to serve people on grounds of religious belief. i.e no flowers for your gay wedding, which, surprisingly, is legal. My firm argued that discrimination is firstly just wrong, and secondly would make it more difficult to attract talent to what is essentially the middle of nowhere.

I've grown to like Indy, though without its convention centre, the Colts football team and the Pacers basketball team it would have nothing. Give me Chicago, New York or Boston any day.

 

Right, BBC pissing me off now. Couldn't care less about this bias stuff, but the quality of their interviewing is stone cold crap. Eddie Maher at it now trying silly games to show how clever he is with Nick Clegg and Leanne Wood. It takes something to make me feel sympathetic towards politicians, but bugger me the BBC is doing it. Between Humphreys, Naughtie, Maher and Davies they must have the most self obsessed interviewers ever. Not to mention that sneering twat Nick Robinson. They, just as much as the politicians, have created this trivial, shallow debate, yet they are the ones moaning about how trivial and shallow it is. ****ers.

That's better.

 

Didn't hear the Clegg\Wood interview (Eddie Mair?) but to be fair to all journalists at present, the only meaningful question left is what parties' intentions are if no party gets a clear majority, and none of the fc ukers will answer it.

Just seen Sky's latest politico-musical trailer set to "Let's get it on". Brilliant!

 

**** me, that's my world turned upside down. Goldie defending the BBC. I think it is Mair not Maher. I've always quite liked him, but tonight he made me genuinely angry, showing off. They're dumbing it down yet further. Asking what will you do on Friday morning endlessly and then not listening to the answer is just tedious. It's pretty clear to me, they don't know what they will do. Although Cameron may well be resigning as Tory party leader, the numbers aren't working for him at all.

 

Cameron's future may be decided by which party the Lib Dems turn to. If they turn to Labour, Clegg may go too, perhaps replaced by Cable. Even if Lib Dems go for Tory, Tory backbenchers may try to oust Cameron for failing to get an outright majority a second time. Meanwhile, Miliband will abandon "Hell, yes" in favour of "Och, aye"

 

Humphreys being a complete and utter twat is definitely something upon which we can agree.

 

Fair play Stan and I'm not the biggest fan of Nick Robinson so I feel your pain there!

 

I miss John Cole's political reports, I think he a behind the scenes man now.

Jon Snow on C4 is good.

 

John Cole died, aged 85, in 2013 Rhino. He is very much behind the scenes now. But he was good.

I think I will be watching Paxman and David Mitchell on C4 on election night.

 

I recommend Ballot Monkeys on CH4 now.

 

Cheers Stroller, I will check it out, anything to avoid the news on any channel right now

 

Thanks for recommending Ballot Monkeys Stroller. Top stuff I enjoyed that

 

You mean to say that you lads are not watching football mavericks on itv4? Rod, Stan, Tony Currie, Frank Worthington et al......the only down side was the odd appearance of old saggy chops who has just had the audacity to say that he loves a maverick. ......
pure escapism from the election.

 

I've recorded that Tramore. Looking forward to watching it - I'll fast forward through Redknapp.

 

Start the last day of campaigning with another BBC farce, this time Sarah Montague totally cocking up an interview with Paul Nuttall, UKIP deputy leader. Staring at an open goal, with a UKIP candidate caught on tape saying he would shoot (between the eyes) an Asian Tory MP on the event of the latter becoming PM. A stupid and nasty thing to say but even with my built in bias, not a genuine threat. Nuttall was well prepared with facts and figures and easily saw her off. Of course UKIP has more strange and twisted paranoiacs in it than the other parties, but he rightly pointed out that there are plenty of weirdos in the other parties too (with the arresting figure of 319 councillors suspended/arrested since January). UKIPs problem is they only get rid of these people once they are publically exposed, when you know that they are saying the same and much worse in party meetings all the time. See Ballot Monkeys (nice recommendation Strolls). See Stewart Lee (on YouTube) for a relentless logical and very funny deconstruction of Nuttall.

She then went on to do a Humphreys and badger him about would UKIP be prepared to bring a Tory government down. Again very clear, UKIP would support them in return for a rapid and 'fair' EU referendum. End of. Finally Humphreys, the grand twat himself, with Cameron. Actually ony half listened to it, but got the impression that Cameron was better at shouting over Humphreys' shouts than Cleggy was. Content, at this stage, irrelevant, though it seems Cameron's wishes for EU reform would require treaty change, which will never happen, so presumably if we have a referendum he will campaign to leave. Of course he could short cut the whole thing and say he wants to leave the EU today and stop immigration and he'd probably get a majority. He's now relying on the 'shy Tory' effect like in 1992, that people are for some reason too embarrassed to tell pollsters that they are voting Tory, and that risk aversion takes over in the Polling Stations.

Apparently all the media predicting nightmare, meltdown, shambles on Friday morning, whipping up panic in what they hope will be a self fulfilling prophecy. We are truly entering the arena of the unwell.

 

Poll on here now closed, which means I can't change my mind at the last minute in our imaginary world.......good turnout I think, 111, of which 97 are eligible to vote tomorrow (or claim to be). Over 50% of those eligible to vote go Tory or UKIP.

Would be interesting to hear if any one has changed their minds definitively because of what they have heard during the (interminably long and tedious) campaign or even what they have read on here.

I still haven't really made my mind up, so Swords, as a non-combatant and my fellow dweller in the Ghandi section of the grid, I'll vote any way you suggest, except UKIP. My local choices are the standard Tory, Labour, Lib Dem, Green, UKIP. It's a big responsibility, but bear it lightly.