Off Topic The QPR Not 606 Rolling Election Poll

Oh no he didn't!

 

Back in the big playground it appears Moses has taken over the Labour party, carving meaningless homilies onto lumps of stone. Honestly, what kind of marketing twat dreamed that one up, and what kind of idiot agreed to do it?

All I've heard this weekend is both Cameron and Miliband telling us the circumstances in which they would not be Prime Minister. Well **** off then if you're not up for it.

And Sturgeon says she would vote against a Labour budget if it 'imposes more cuts on vulnerable people'. So voting with the Tories then.

 

HE'S BEHIND YOU

 

I'll vote for you Stan, you can be the forum's Genghis Khan smiting all and sundry, it'll be far more entertaining than the current election campaign...

 

Oh no he isn't!

 

3 things I'm not impressed with today :

1. Nationalist Scots using rent-a-mob to try to disrupt Labour's meeting today, at which Jim Murphy and Eddie Izzard were trying to speak. The Nationalisst are looking increasingly like a fascist party.

2. Nick Clegg and colleague, Lord Scriven, using the subject of a private conversation with Coalition partner as ammunition in the election. Scriven is a treacherous snake and no one working with him should trust him.

3. Harriet Harperson's husband Jack Dromey attending a Muslim election meeting where all the women were segregated from the men. Our society seems to be going backwards...

 

This could actually have some effect on the result.

http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...rand-endorsed-labour-tories-should-be-worried

Cue spluttering outrage.

 

Russell's sold out the anarchists' cause. A marked man, he'll be found lying naked in some gutter covered in a Banksy graffiti....

 

It is entirely fitting that there is such interest in the opinion of someone of Brand's stature in a campaign of this quality.

FFS. If he was arguing for people to think for themselves he might have a tiny bit more credibility.

 

Good on him. I agree with about all of that.

 

Just watched the Marxist Scottish Nationalists using Mob tactics against the Labour Party in Scotland.
I'm beginning to think that the sooner the Scots bugger off and go it alone, the better!

 

And..............what a twat that Milliband is with his "Moses Tablet". My God, this idiot could be our Prime Minister this time next week!!

 

There's a reason they're called 'followers', Stan.

Seriously, it seems that there are many young people who are influenced by Brand. His about-turn could persuade some to vote Labour, and it might just affect the result.

Expect Jim Davidson, Gary Barlow et al to have their say in the next day or two.

 

The mob stuff was horrible, and the SNP leadership need to be seen to doing something about it. I'd be grateful if you could point me to the Marxist bits of their platform though, unless you are just using 'Marxist' as a kind of insult.

 

'Appen a few on this thread would be voting for this Broad if she was running in England

https://www.newstalk.ie/Homosexuali...n-candidate-has-been-causing-huge-controversy

(Click on the little play button to hear her policies)

 

Betfair now has the Tories with an 83% chance of getting the most seats (i.e. nailed on) but only 275, 14 ahead of Labour and 50 short of an overall majority (which Lib Dems, DUP, and UKIP combined won't make up). Even with the SNP (projected 54 seats) Labour don't get an overall majority.

Tory minority government, another election in the autumn.

And on the Today programme they are beginning the scare stories about what the 'markets', our unconscious, unfeeling and imaginary masters, will do in the event of 'uncertainty'. When it happens just remember that the real reason money is leaving the UK is that bond returns are 1-2% whereas you can get 6% in 'emerging market' countries.

John Humphreys is really doing my head in this morning, talking, nay shouting, all over the top of Nick Clegg, who is clearly exasperated with his cretinous line of questioning
Q 'will you form a coalition with the biggest party after the election?'
A 'we will talk to the biggest party if they ask us to, but that does not mean there will be a coalition if we can't agree'
Q 'I want a yes or no answer'
A 'It's not a yes or no question. The real world is more complicated than that'
Q 'I'm baffled that you can't give a yes or no answer'
A ' What part of my answer don't you understand you egotistical old twat?'*
Q 'Let me ask again, will you automatically form a coalition with the biggest party. By the way is that the biggest by seats or votes'
A. ' If asked, and if we find grounds for agreement we will discuss providing support. In our type of democracy, sadly, total seats are more important than total votes. Are you deaf as well as stupid?'*
Q. 'My job is to be the centre of attention and belittle anyone I'm interviewing whilst not actually allowing them to answer any questions. You're a total failure, aren't you?'
A 'John, if I was in the studio with you rather than in Cornwall, you would find my thumbs pressing down with some force on your carotid artery. Now **** off and retire'.*

* my estimation of Nick Clegg's thoughts. Humphreys is a one man SNP hate mob.

 

so the next government could last less time than brands celebrity marriage
(just tying two threads together)

 

Seems likely we'll be moving into an anti-austerity era. If the Tories get the most votes as Stan says, the Lib Dems will probably try to do a deal with them, on the basis that if the deal with a Labour/SNP tie up, they won't be supporting the party with the most votes and could thus be accused of acting anti-democratically. But they may be able to extract concessions from the Tories (and moderate austerity) - although not the EU referendum which is a Tory red line. UKIP want the referendum this year - will that be the price of support? (not that they are likely to have many MP's)

So could the Tories stagger on to a referendum on the EU in the autumn? And if the vote is out, would this trigger a new Scottish Independence referendum - probably? And if its in, would that trigger another general election?

It seems we're in for a period of instability, and since the SNP will be so hostile to a Tory Government that it will be personal, there seems little chances for compromise in Parliament. The onus may be on the opposing Labour party to vote with the Government on certain matters "for the sake of the country". But will they?

So many questions...

 

I think Tories, Lib Dems and Labour are all austerity parties to a greater or lesser degree, and though they won't admit it they have much more in common than they have with the SNP, Greens or UKIP. The only vaguely potential combination that provides a workable majority is Labour with SNP and Lib Dem support, but I just can't see that happening. The 'Grand Coalition' idea of a Con-Lab hitch up may gain ground if there is genuine deadlock after the election, though it's pretty unlikely.

This is the price of the 'it's all about me' culture we have which politicians pander to. Election night will be very unsatisfying this time as there will be no clear result and then days if not weeks of bargaining ahead. Mind you, Belgium went for over a year without a government recently because parties could not agree, and the country didn't dissolve into a pool of garlic butter and chocolate.

 

Little comfort! The uncertainty, particularly with EU and a second Scottish referendum on the side, may well last years. Friday will be the start...