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Discussion in 'Swansea City' started by Terror ball, Apr 22, 2015.

  1. ProjectVRD

    ProjectVRD Well-Known Member

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    To be fair to him, Labour did nothing to fix the situation but under the Conservatives we have seen a boom in Social Housing including here in Swansea.

    This Labour led council and the Lib Dem one before that are claiming credit but it was Cameron who got the ball rolling. Still, we see no new council housing. But I don't expect any of the big three to fix that situation, it will just be more private Social Housing.

    My point is though, this Conservative government have done a hell of a lot more than Blair and Brown.
     
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    I did`nt vote Blaires lot in either !
     
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  3. ValleyGraduate12

    ValleyGraduate12 Aberdude's Puppet Forum Moderator

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    That's because Blair was a true son of Thatcher.
     
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  4. Jager

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    In my opinion Project the conservatives with their lapdogs the whores, have done far more damage than good, cutting services, cutting public sector jobs, cutting benefits to those that need them. I am after the whole picture not just my own, my situation is worse now than 5 years ago when we were in a full blown recession, I work in the private sector, I am not entitled to tax credits because of my income level, not that I want any. And my taxes have steadily gone up, not just council tax, but vat, i'm earning more than 5 years ago but i'm being taxed more.

    The question to ask yourself is this, do you seriously expect your life to get better under cameron in the next few years, I mean he hasn't even decided to go full term, imagine IDS coming in as prime minister, you thought Brown was bad, he would be a disaster.

    I am like I said previously voting tactically, I don't like Labour very much, but they are better than the Conservatives, so are a lessor than two evils. Voting UKIP, Liberals, Greens or anyone else will hand it to cameron, can you imagine what our country will look like with farage having any power at all?

    I think though that everyone who can vote should vote though, if people don't then they deserve the government that they get, and they deserve not to have a voice imo
     
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  5. swanseaandproud

    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    people whining about bedroom tax pisses me off, why should you have empty rooms that people crammed three to a room have to pay for.
    Selfish ****ers.

    Are you for real, where are these people who have raised their families who have flown the nest suppose to go after living in their homes for years.....What right have anyone especially with more rooms and even more houses than the working class to say people should move if they have an extra bedroom now their kids have flown the nest..........Its disgraceful and another way of keeping the lower classes in their place while the rich can have as many bedrooms and houses they like.....
     
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    the rich have it all dude, us fking welsh scum have 2 beg for anything that's left over and that's a fact <ok>
     
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  7. ValleyGraduate12

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    That's why we should be voting Plaid Cymru.
     
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  8. Jager

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    Thing is the rich are the ones who employ people, they are also the ones who have risked a lot to get where they are. Some inherit wealth but most build wealth themselves. For example Alan Sugar, Richard Branson and let's face it Martin Morgan who is the man behind our own club.

    Blaming the rich is the same as blaming immigrants on all that is bad in your life. For me I want to be successful, I want to build my company and I want to have money, there's nothing wrong with that, it's not as if I'm doing underhanded or unethical, so why can't have my sights on earning a footballers salary?
     
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    I don't think it's a case of blaming the rich. It's a case of blaming the rich who use their wealth to influence the political system for their own benefits. We're talking about the "elite", the multi-national corporations and the free uncontrolled press, "The Illuminati".

    These are the guys who influence politicians in darkened corridors, start wars, influence major economic deals, gain huge tax avoidance deals etc etc. Politicians are their pawns.
     
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    The normal bosses that will not get above the glass ceiling of the elite rich ( unless invited for corrupt services rendered to them ) are good for the country on the whole as they employ a lot of people and generally play within the rules so deserve to do well. The handed down super rich have always been a deadly problem for the rest of us !
     
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    But is it right we should pay for people like Abu Hamza's wife to live in a £2m 6 bedroom London townhouse on her own whilst just down the road you have families of 4 living in B&Bs.
     
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  12. ValleyGraduate12

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    There's a hell of a difference between her and the scenario that Jager posted <doh>
     
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    I wasn't replying to Jager <doh>
     
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    the whole system is arse backwards
     
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  15. Monty Fisto

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    Ok Valley. Lets say you are in power, what universal rule would you create to get people like Hamza's wife out of her massive townhouse and into a 1 bedroom flat?
     
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    Remember her bullshit of telling the working classes they can buy their council houses on the cheap and many did and thought it was a great idea and the tories can't be all that bad...........BUT ...... WAIT... Little did they know that It was all a scam as little did they know most would soon lose their jobs and wont be able to pay their mortgages and their homes will be snapped up by the rich for pittance.......This is the Face of evil and the way the Tories do things...
     
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    Build 1 bedroom flats for starters. Quite frankly, she was the husband of a terrorist, they should have kicked her out of the country too.
     
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    You can build as many 1 bedroom flats as you like but it won't get Hamza out of her state paid mansion.
     
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    swanseaandproud Well-Known Member

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    The problem is that hamza's wife have committed no crime and is seen as a victim of her husbands doings but people don't see it like that and she is protected by the court of human rights in Brussels. There has been many attempts to evict her and her children but it has always been overruled by a higher court.
     
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    Another reason to get out of the EU grip on us !
     
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