He could have scored six tonight but is it going to make any difference....nahhh. We wonder why we hang on every year for the 17th position......lets go out and buy some sh*te in the transfer market....now that's a better option.....right?
I watched Ryan Noble set the reeserves alight in the days before u21's - he was awesome - looked every bit as good as anything we had at the time for goalscoring. He now plys his trade in the non-league somewhere - not good enough. I think Watmore has the ability but nobody actually knows for certain until we see him play at the top level. He could turn out to be another Noble! (I don;t think he will from what I've seen of him but it is a possibility as I pushed for Noble as much as I would for Watmore)
Noble was built like a Jockeys whip, so I hold abit more hope for Duncan. I think we're all hoping for him to do a McClean and give us something different. He more than deserves that chance !
I know mate - you're right about how they're built but Noble was a proper goalscorer at reserve level and was absolute dogshite at any professional level above that sadly! Agree Watmore deserves a chance - with AJ out of the picture there's no time like the present!!
Summed it up there mate......"nobody knows for certain until we see him at the top level". That's my biggest thing....just give these lads a chance. If Watmore doesn't do it move on to the next promising kid. We apparently stopped him going out on loan to be involved with the first team...yes, he got injured for a while but when he came back the odd 20 minute cameo wouldn't have done any harm. Now that we are in full crisis mode it's a different kettle of fish but what's the options? Go with more experienced players who are driving us down the league? We need something different up front...pace....let him have his chance. He's certainly deserved it....
Thing is you can;t give him a chance - if he has a couple of bad games we can;t give up on him - but on the other side of that - we can scarcely afford passengers at this moment this season (we already have Buckley, Rodwell etc.) but I like Watmore and what I've seen of him - He needs 5 or 6 gamnes in a row to make an informed decision - it's impossible after one game to say "this lads the next [Pele] or [Gareth Hall]" Jack Grealish has had 2 or 3 good games for Villa and now they're asking him to make his mind up about internationals FFS! Watmore could be the same but he needs time in and around the first team to prove this. I'd put him on the bench on Saturday - no defender is going to like to see a young, direct, enthusiastic FAST player coming off the bench after 70 minutes! I wouldn;t have when I played Pub level let alone what the pro's think!!
Noble turned out couldn't put muscle or fat on mate. Delt a dude hand, to remain with the body of a young boy for an eternity. Watmore was playing among fully developed men when he 18 years old. He doesn't have the same obstacles Noble has. Very different players. We don't know if he'll become a topflight player with us, doubt he ever will without the chance. His dad's been on twitter hinting that he only has a year left on his contract. If we're to develop him it's next season or nothing and even then the damage could already be done. We're going to struggle to keep hold of this lad and they'll be no shortage of takers.
I think there is also a bigger picture here. First, what's it saying to other potential young players the club is looking to attract? Secondly, I would have thought that from a business point of view it would be a lot more profitable to bring these kids through and sell them on down the line. We get so obsessed with FFP we seem to forget about this revenue stream...ok will go back in my hole now...
DUNCAN WATMORE will remain absent from the Sunderland squad for today’s visit of Southampton, despite his scoring prowess for the Under-21s.Forward Watmore was an unused substitute for Dick Advocaat’s opening game in charge at West Ham, but hasn’t even made the bench since, despite netting four goals in his last four outings for the U21s. Fellow youngsters Liam Agnew and George Honeyman were surprisingly preferred among the substitutes for last weekend’s draw at Stoke and head coach Advocaat has confirmed that Watmore will again be missing today. Advocaat does not believe Watmore is ready for the high-pressure environment of a relegation battle and says he cannot take a chance on the 21-year-old. “When I arrived here, I had to do this with the squad I had,” said Advocaat. “We have five strikers for one position. I cannot say to the five that we pick Duncan. “If I knew he was better, I would use him. “But at the moment he’s not, with the experience that we need now. “If it was at the beginning of the season, it would be a totally different situation, or if it was in pre-season. “But now I cannot take that risk. “He’s an excellent goalscorer, but will he do the same in these kind of games? With all respect, I have my doubts.” Advocaat will not even hand Watmore a place on the bench against the Saints, despite Sunderland’s desperate need to boost their survival hopes with a victory. “He’s not in the squad,” added Advocaat. “No, I wouldn’t risk him on the bench because there are still other players.” . Ffs
let me get this right, sunderland are struggling for goals, watmore is a excellent goalscorer and still this clueless manager is still picking a lad what hasn't scored for us because he is more experience LOL I give up me like.
Who are these 5 strikers who are available anyway? I count 4 with only 3 available, Connor, Defoe and DG. And Dick likes to play 433 He also thinks Honeyman and Agnew are ahead of him in development. Watmore isn't ready but these others are? Or are they wasted places on the bench? The lads are just there for experience? Both are AM, at least retain some options, just in case. Nah, this excuse doesn't wash with me.
Advocaat....what a load of fcuking bollocks.....if any manager can afford to take a risk it's him. He's not going to be at the club next season. Same applies for Agnew and Honeyman on the bench surely. Someone convince me that there before Watmore on performances in the under 21's ......wonder why we are fcuked....
This situation is really pissing me off tbh. I understand not chucking hi on from the start, and I get that just because he does well in the U21s doesn't mean he's gonna tear up the prem... But FFS the lad is anatural goalscorer, how the **** will we know if he can cut it or not if he never gets a chance? Even just chuck him on for the last 10 mins and see how he fares? What's the harm? If he's ****e then fair play drop him back to the U21s, but you never know he could make a difference. But nah, let's stick with our "experienced" strikers.... Danny Graham and Steven Fletcher. Why take the risk that Watmore might not not score in the Prem, when we can go with DG and Fleth who we KNOW won't score **** all. Beyond ridiculous. And the worst part for me is, if the lad was never gonna get a chance, why the **** did we not loan him out? So we can't play him coz he's "got no experience" but we're also going to block his move to lower league teams to get some experience because he's "close to the first team"? **** off Sunderland, **** like this pisses me off so much. And we wonder why no youngsters come through....
The lad has pace, every team needs pace up front, we have none , he scores goals regularly, our strikers don't, why he is not on the bench and given a chance when the opportunity arises, its a puzzle to say the least. As for Ryan Noble who knows what would have become of him if he had been given a chance at the right time.
Watmore does seem to deserve a chance. As for Noble he's now playing semi professional football so I reckon he'd have failed mate.
He won't feature till next season now, I can accept that. But I don't accept Dick's reasoning, it doesn't make sense. WHO ARE THESE 5 STRIKERS AHEAD OF HIM!!!!!!
