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Sunderland vs Southampton - Saturday 2nd May K.O. 3:00PM

Discussion in 'Southampton' started by Jose Fonte baby, Apr 29, 2015.

  1. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Cold up there. (But they are sensitive in Newcastle area if you dare to suggest that the north is cold....despite all the evidence).
     
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  2. st_brendy

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    Wickham, Defoe and Graham? You can't say Sunderland are sitting back. Not sure who is going to be supplying them though.
     
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  3. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Southampton
    • 01 Davis
    • 02 Clyne
    • 06 Fonte
    • 03 Yoshida
    • 21 Bertrand
    • 17 Alderweireld
    • 12 Wanyama
    • 16 Ward-Prowse
    • 10 ManĂ©
    • 07 Long
    • 19 Pellè
    Substitutes
    • 05 Gardos
    • 08 Davis
    • 15 Djuricic
    • 22 Elia
    • 25 Gazzaniga
    • 28 Reed
    • 33 Targett
     
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    Davis dropped. Good.
     
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  5. Qwerty

    Qwerty Well-Known Member

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    2 players with pace? This has to be a new Southampton FC record.
     
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  6. SouthamptonFCroatia

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    Although I think Alderweireld is accomplished in the midfield, do we really need to be so defensive to field a midfield of Wanyama and Alderwiereld? And another thing, why put a defender in midfield when we have more than capable talented young midfielder on the bench?
     
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  7. lamby

    lamby Needs a cold shower

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    Ron must have his reasons
     
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  8. Le Tissier's Laces

    Le Tissier's Laces Well-Known Member

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    I'm kinda with you on that one, but let's see.
     
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  9. SouthamptonFCroatia

    SouthamptonFCroatia Well-Known Member

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    Rest of the team is fairly attacking minded to be fair. You have Long and Mane who are basically striker, and JWP whose contribution to defence is that he's a body that occupies some space.
     
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  10. SaintRachel

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    Perhaps it's part of a 'How do we hang on to Alderweireld' plan?
     
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  11. st_brendy

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    I'm not sure I get that argument. No-one complains when it's Morgan and Vic, and it's largely thanks to us playing those two in front of the back four that our defensive record is so good. Today, Toby is simply filling in for Morgan. We were terribly exposed in the first half against Burnley recently, when we went with just the one in front of the back four (Morgan on that occasion).

    It's not like we're lacking attacking options. Pelle, Long and Mane all starting, and JWP is hardly a defensive midfield warrior.
     
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  12. ChilcoSaint

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    I think Ron is a subscriber to the "Sunderland are a bunch of thugs" point of view and he doesn't want Harry Reed being abused.
     
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  13. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Because I think we're more solid with Toby in CD. I think he's a little bit wasted as an excellent player in CDM. Would rather we had Reed and Vic which is equally defensive (if slightly physically different) with Toby in the back four.
     
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  14. Le Tissier's Laces

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    In which case I'm down with it!
     
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  15. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    Toby is a good midfielder as well....obvious replacement for Schneiderlin. Our defence is based on having Wanyama and Spider in front of the back 4...great to be able to replace Morgan with an experienced defensive player.
     
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  16. st_brendy

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    Well that's a different argument - and one which I do agree with. It's not how I interpreted the first part of Croatia's post (which you agreed with), but apologies that might have been a misunderstanding on my part.

    I'd be against us playing Vic as the only defensive midfielder, but I'd be fine with playing Reed along side Vic and putting Toby back into the defence. The main thing is that we have those two defensive rocks in front of the back four. Although that said, Yoshida has done little wrong to deserve to be dropped.
     
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  17. Clem Fandango

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    Toby is a very accomplished CM, more so than Reed at this stage. I imagine if things are going well we will take off a defensive midfielder, but building from the back is how we've been playing this season.
     
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  18. fran-MLs little camera

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    Good to have the Ginger Ninja on the bench though.
     
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  19. Le Tissier's Laces

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    Agreed (and with Brendy too), I just think he's a better defender than he is midfielder, and I'd rather play players in their best position than push them into a less effective position just because they're very good (particularly when I personally feel Reed can do a good job there). I suspect Ron's reasoning being experience, and also Toby has a better passing range (a la Morgan).
     
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  20. Le Tissier's Laces

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    The Newcastle result will be a big motivator for Sunderland today (unfortunately).
     
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