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  1. astro

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    The point is you having a #meltdown over a global warming agenda that doesn't exist.

    It could equally be interpreted as genetic modification leads to a reduction in crop diversity, then they all fall victim to the same blight. The death of plants causes the soil to become lifeless and dusty.

    If the only problem was warming there would be other things to try (such as intentionally generating sulphur aerosols) rather than travel to another galaxy FFS.

    Anyway. Good film, but not as good as Inception or the Batman films.
     
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    Then why post a picture of desert?


    "It could equally be interpreted as genetic modification leads to a reduction in crop diversity, then they all fall victim to the same blight. The death of plants causes the soil to become lifeless and dusty."

    The viewer does not analyse this in way that you or I would, you are going to lengths to explain possibilties, the millions that watched that movie were left with a very different impression not based on how or why, just a grim future that is being pushed at every opportunity, alone on it's own Interstellar is insignificant, but in terms of the wider narrative being pushed it is not.

    Also the only suggestion of genetic modification is after teh **** hit the fan in the movie, as in genetic modification is the only thing that has sustained said crops, pushing the Monsanto Bayer line. These ****ers fund movies, just like rayban pumped cash into men in black 2

    Plus I watched it twice, the storms in the chronology of the movie come before the crop deaths. People do not get into the "science of interstellar except for the whole black hole wormhole thing.

    Clearly in the movie the atmosphere changed first, which caused the blight population to explode, again chronology is important but..

    The average mindless watcher of that movie were left with a distinct impression, that we are heading towards our own doom, which may be true actually, or even likely eventually, but, not by freaking CO2.

    As for your areosols you mentioned. They are already actually considering that AND THAT IS ****ED UP. When they start geoengineering, that is when **** will get bad.

    We are heading for a world where all crops are genetically modified and atmoshpere is modified, then.. we are truly ****ed.
     
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    FFS <doh>

    FFFS <doh>

    FFFBS <doh>

    <doh>

    Sort your spell checker out <doh>












     
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    I posted a picture of the dust bowl which is what the interviews at the start are about. An actual event in the past not some completely ficticious thing (though the scale is exaggerated for the movie).

    I only saw it once so I don't know about the chronology, but the point is they didn't say global warming, and it isn't part of a global warming #conspiracy

    Of course films can reflect pre-existing worries in society
     
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    I am not makig a big deal about the movie, I merely mentioned it on one like and you jumped on it and here we are Astro, read back, that's clearly what happened.

    Also, now they are looking at Astroid dust, just looking mind

    When it's a ****ing hoax and you have crack pots talking about surrounding the earth with asteroid dust, you know it's just going batshit crazy
    http://www.livescience.com/23553-asteroid-dust-geoenineering-global-warming.html
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    Science in the past has seldom had the potential to kills us all, but these days, it has the potential to kill us all many times over
     
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    We already are doing geoengineering. The only difference is doing it carefully and on purpose as opposed to it being an accidental and uncontrolled side-effect.
     
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    We are yes, but not full blown, most of it is cloud seeding and experiments.
    Geoengineering has been going on since the 60s mate

    here in my region they are spraying out over the ocean and it creates ****ed up looking clouds that drift over land, and always in the direction of the sun. It's obvious the clouds have chnged. Though some of that is also extra influence from space, how much is it is of each i have no idea

    You start that **** and you are asking for trouble, One bad long winter that kills crops will cause global food shortages, fine ****ing margins
     
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    As a football team we're very ****ing **** and all you two toss heads care about is sorting our planet and arguing over some fog <doh>

    Get some perspective, our team is in trouble
     
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    but obv OUR WORLD IS more important
     
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    I just redefined the project as "exploratory fracking" instead and the authorities dropped all charges.
     
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    Great, well nothing to worry about then
     
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    <laugh>
     
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    Don't say that, look at what "Fog on the Tyne" did to Newcastle <whistle>
     
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    Oh no! I never realised the world was ending...what a waste of money that 12 month extended warranty on my new TV seems now.
     
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    My point about the geoengineering of our atmosphere is this.

    Meteorology does not understand and cannot figure out quite a lot about our weather, we cannt even properly model tornadoes, we can replice them in models but scientists cannot get them to rotate at the speeds they do, meaning incomplete models.

    We can only predict weather with any kind of accuracy 4 days ahead.

    So, if that is where we stand on "weather" how the **** do we think we can go and mess with a weather system we do not fully understand.

    That's my caveat on it. Common sense if you ask me.
     
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    interstellar was just a movie mate relax:bandit:

    #itsnot2012
     
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    How many end of the world scenarios have we had now?
    Mayan calendar
    y2k
    Nostradamus
    <laugh>

    The reality is there have been some real ones people have not been aware of, like close passes by asteroids. And a genetic modified plant that was modified to produce ethanol, the tests were going to be carried out in trials in agriculture, but thankfully on scientist chick decided that was a bad idea so she changed the test plan and carried out the tests in isloated indoor labs, the plants killed themselves with ethanol they prodiced. Cuba and again in the 80s the US and Russians almost killed us all again with nukes.

    The world is a ****ing tinder box at this point <laugh>
     
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    I will however point out a contradiction in some logic

    We know IPCC have got everything wrong, all of their models have failed. Mostly epic fails. This is the science geoengineering is founded on.
    Yet Astro you will claim that they know what they are doing with geoengineering the climate.

    The truth about science is there is failure after failure then success. This is all very well and good when you are doing particle physics or designing new computer technology.

    BUT ****ING WITH THE ATMOSPHERE!! <doh>
    We can't afford failure after failure in the hope we will succeed. Failure costs lives.
    Which brings me to another relevant point.

    IPCC claims climate change is man made and blame CO2
    So, why would one not think these drastic fluctuations in weather could be caused by Geoengineering? I think that is a valid question

    Astro writes "The only difference is doing it carefully and on purpose as opposed to it being an accidental and uncontrolled side-effect"


    I can offer numerous examples of scientists being wreckless arrogant and taking huge risks that have cost people's lives.

    It's no secret ffs that the UK gov decades ago released bacteria into the air over populated areas to "monitor" how the infection spread.
    No secret US scientists fed plutonium to peope without them knowing it and monitored their slow death for decades by following their medical history.

    Stop thinking science is pure and good for ****'s sake. Scientists as a group are human, they are liars, self delusional, arrogant, biased, influenced and controlled in their work, just like the rest of humanity.

    Just look at the Pharma industry, when a scientist is paid to create a drug for profit, it behooves him to hide negative\dangerous results. This has been proven over and over. Like the AIDs tainted drugs that were intentionally sold in Europe even though the US FDA knew the product was tainted, it was sold in the US tho.
    Scientists tested and found AIDs in this product, what did they do, tell everyone? nope? Why? their jobs were on the line, and this is how you control science, funding, employment, scientists above all love their careers and that is the lever that forces the IPCC scientists to just do what they are told to do.
     
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    He still shouldn't have wasted money on the warranty
     
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