How many similar ballots can you find with a better turnout than 71%? Do you think the OSCs ballot will have a higher or lower turnout? You seem to really struggle with the basic principles of research ans consultation. Ive explained it to you countless times before, and you always just scuttle off quietly before popping up on another thread a few days later with some similar nonsense, but once again, those who don't vote are deemed to be represented by those who do. Their choice is to leave it to others to represent them. That's not an opinion, that's just how it works in any poll/ballot/election.
Yes, but they didn't, they didn't, and you haven't. All this poll actually shows is that amongst the 4% of a 25,000 crowd who can be bothered to join a group who actively oppose the name change, only 71% (so that's about 3% of the total) voted against it. Frankly I'd keep quiet about it rather than send it to the F.A. who will piss themselves. You've done a grand job of marshalling the opposition to Allam, but this really doesn't help.
Seven hundred people is statistically insignificant. Sorry, but I agree with the above that the result means nothing.
turkeys voting for Christmas springs to mind. I have no doubt the trust think they are now a fully fledged supporters unit, but at a mandate of 700 plus they still appear to be a rebranded single issue pressure group? My argument here isn't with what's right or wrong in this, it is just you can't purport to be the voice of the masses when you aren't. No matter how sincere you are and how passionate.
Perhaps the voice of the masses could have been sought if the club itself had undertaken a unbiased poll amongst season ticket holders.Wonder why that didn't happen?
We're not claiming to be anything other than what we are, we'll state our case to the FA, that case will be backed up by this overwhelming mandate from our members, it would be rather odd if our submission didn't show it had the support of our members.
Since when did a crowd of 25000 include 100% of home supporters? Such a crowd would include up to 3000 away supporters.Please recalculate.
It's apathy and it's very frustrating,but it's what we do for any kind of vote about anything in this country. Most people are too bloody lazy,and leave it all to others,in the belief that everything will be fine.
Indeed it would. It does not, however, show the support (or otherwise) of the rest of the supporters.
We have been here before, the numbers game The worldwide membership of Greenpeace is approx. 2,9 million so over 6 Billion people don't care about global warming, deforestation, genetically modified crops, whaling, and any of the other things they protest about. The Green party in the UK has approx. 53,000 members so about 55 million don't care about renewable energy, nuclear waste, saving trees or newts and all the other things they protest about. I could go on. Those who join get their opinions counted.
£5 well spent just to get my vote in. Hopefully the FA will listen to the fans and tell Allam to **** right off..... AGAIN! #ProudToBeHCAFC
I confess I was using a broad brush approach. I assumed that not every home fan goes to every home game, but that there were a few thousand over and above every games figure. However, if you are struggling to do the maths I'm happy to calculate it for you on your figures. Just as an aside, if you want some firmer figures you may want to consider that the poll showed 59% of its yes vote were season ticket holders. That is 59% of the 764. Which equals 450. So 450 season ticket holders voted with the "Supporters Trust". As I understand it there are 18,000 season ticket holders. So that is 2.5%. Hardly a ringing endorsement. As I said, my own views are known, but either way I have been impressed by the way the CTID and the new HCST have conducted themselves (as a group) and their campaign, but this poll does not, in my view, help their cause.
