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Discussion in 'Leeds United' started by ristac, Apr 30, 2015.

  1. Doc

    Doc Well-Known Member

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    That's the problem with electoral system, there's no legitimacy. How can we get a Primeinister who gets only 30% of the vote. That means 70% of us didn't want him ffs. happened in 2010 and going to happen again. We should have a different system and then that would mean that every vote counted. My vote for UKIP is a protest because I know they can't win, but if they get 20% of the votes that would only be 10% behind the 2 coonts.

    While I'm on one, Tories on 30% Labour on 30% both will get hundreds of seats. Lib have 6% and will get 30 seats, SNP have only 5% of the national vote but get 50 seats, and UKIP on 20% get 1 or 2 seats it fooking stinks. SNP should not have anything to do with us down especially if their 5% gets them 50 times the number of seats that a party with 20% gets. Not really democratic is it - stich up
     
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  2. FORZA LEEDS

    FORZA LEEDS Well-Known Member

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    Alright Steve <ok>

    Tories win by a landslide would be the best result all round <whistle>
     
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  3. Penshawdave

    Penshawdave Well-Known Member

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    But the only way it could change is if the parties it favours decide to do the decent thing.. !!!

    It wont happen.

    BUT there is a referendum that WOULD MATTER.
     
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  4. RCDM

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    Did Labours mismanagement affect the rest of Europe as well?
     
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    I thought it was for me :(
     
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  6. BoggersMOT

    BoggersMOT Well-Known Member

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    Indirectly yes. They too tried to spend beyond their means!! Worryingly, Labour still want to spend more, & thereby increase interest payments.
     
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  7. RCDM

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    The UK had an influence on Spain, France, Germany, Greece e.t.c (well, the rest of the world), which caused the global financial crisis? We might not have been in as good a position as some, but we weren't as bad as the Tories would have you believe.

    Thats not what Labour have said though is it. (Unless you read any of Murdoch's rags obviously)

    They've said they still want to reduce the deficit, but with sensible spending in the right area's.

    Where are the Tories going to find the £12bn that they're going to cut from the wellfare budget. Thats a big number, that they haven't quantified.

    Am i a massive fan of Milliband the person, not really, but then i'm not a fan of any politicians. But all i see Tory politicians doing 90% of the time is "beware of Labour" "Look what happened last time" e.t.c. e.t.c. All politicians are guilty of this to a degree, but its all the Tories fall back on every time. Hows about a bit more about their policy's (that they'll renege on anyway obviously)
     
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  8. BoggersMOT

    BoggersMOT Well-Known Member

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    Fair points all round mate. Only time will tell as to what will happen and who will win. But heaven help us if it's Labour/SNP?
     
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  9. Chippy / Glory

    Chippy / Glory Senior Member

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    2008 - worldwide economic crisis caused by banking collapse.
    The clue is underlined to help idiots understand it! <doh>
     
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  10. EIO

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    That is the question that has been put to them time and again. As Cameron has previously admitted he knows what is in 'the books' (moneywise) yet still they WILL NOT say how they plan to achieve their 12bn of cuts, whereas Labour party does not have access to the books and they are guessing at what the current finances are.

    BBC reporting that 4bn of cuts to Welfare budget will be coming from the removal of Child Benefits from anybody that does not meet a Means Tested criteria to be announced.

    If the current incumbents who know what the finances of the country are, are unprepared to tell the honest and open truth as to how they will manage these welfare cuts but instead say 'TRUST US', you can be sure of one thing, what they intend to implement will be unpalatable, otherwise they would be giving us good news with facts to back it up.

    Farage and Sturgeon are the only leaders prepared to tell it as it is, Farage will not get enough seats to wield influence. Sturgeon will, and after getting what she wants for the Scots financially, the Scots will remove themselves from the Union leaving the rest of the UK with an inbuilt Tory government for the forseeable future............a prospect that fills me with despair
     
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  11. Millwallsteve

    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest
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    Exactly Phil but I didn't say that!! <whistle>
     
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  12. FORZA LEEDS

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    It's ok mate I don't think anyone's noticed <whistle>
     
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  13. RCDM

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    To be fair none of them inspire me with any confidence whatsoever, its a stark choice
     
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  14. Millwallsteve

    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest
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    Ok mate, that's ok then. <whistle>
     
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  15. Chippy / Glory

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    How the **** are you not stuck on a train?
     
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  16. leeds60

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    Lets hope and pray Milliband and that idiot Ed Balls up don't get in they will ruin the country as labour always does .I have no love lost with politicians at best but those two clowns couldn't run a p''' up in a brewery!
     
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  17. Millwallsteve

    Millwallsteve Waterloo's Finest
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    Off today Norman. <ok>
     
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  18. OLOF

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    I would never vote Tory, they're a bunch of ****s

    I will never vote Labour again because champagne socialist Bliar, and that thick, one eyed scotch **** Brown ****ed this country up
    So its Ukip for me

    And any **** on here who votes Tory wants ****ing with a red hot poker, yer set'o'****s ye

    They're all a bunch of ****s anyway
     
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  19. OLOF

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    He should be under one, the ****ing cockney Tory twat<grr>
     
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  20. lifecheshirewhite

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    The tory bankers got us in the mess,the tories said we are all in it together,then they increased the wealth of the rich massively and screwed the poor.<doh> then they spun some bullshit and some fell for it.<yikes>
     
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