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    You also totally misrepresent what that org is. You know the Nazis "educated" the hitler youth.

    Your next stupid comment will be about how the nazis are being compared to the IPCC or some bullshit.

    Spare me your fake outrage at how I present my arguments, <laugh> What stage of wummery is fake outrage again ? I forgot.
     
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    List of falsely classified scientists in the 97% agree bollocks.
    http://www.populartechnology.net/2013/05/97-study-falsely-classifies-scientists.html#Update2
    #fraud
    Now they have these liars arming idiots with nonsense to go off and fight people with common sense logic and actual facts, facts like "the IPCC have never been right on ANYTHING" <laugh>

    facts like "Non scientists can edit report summeries for the public any way they wish , which caused one senior IPCC writer to quit" <doh>

    When you are telling the truth, you don't need to run schools to teach people to force the truth on everyone. <doh>

    propaganda indoctrination, those things need to do that, indoctrination overcomes logic and common sense and most of all facts.
     
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    Essentially those Combat Climate change denier classes boil down to this.

    They want people who have no clue about the subject to sign up and be given one side of a science, and at every point look to debunk the other argument with spurious lies, unproven science and fudged numbers, proven fudged numbers.

    They will show how to use argument not science to debunk dissent. They will use altered temp records and propaganda that I have posted on here with the real charts

    This "project" has been carefully thought out and planned for some time, and is part of an effort to confuse the argument and water down valid counter arguments. It has nothing to do with science.

    There is only one valid explanation for such classes, people are waking up to the lie and are making solid valid arguments, why else coach people on how to deal with good arguments? Surely climate science, if it is valid already has enough arguments, the best kind, scientific proof, and models that have confirmed their theories. Oops, nope, not one model has been even nearly correct and they cannot predict weather as good as many other meteorologists, fact. IPCC best guess is 80% right 4 days in advance, I can do 65% just looking at the sky. Other non IPCC meteoroligists can do 80 days with much certainly and predict drastic events the IPCC cannot!!!! IPCC models 400% wrong, consistently wrong for a decade.

    Now we are finding out that there are volcanoes under ice the IPCC said was melting cos of "global warming" and now we also here just recently that the IPCC has no idea how thick the ice is in the arctic and antarctic, only the area it covers
    meaning ALL spurious claims about ice, the alamrist sea rises ect was ALL bullshit, all of it, every bit. Never mind that sea levels are still rising with historical norms, scientific fact.

    So the only thing these twats have now at the IPCC is every extreme weather event, but extreme weather events have been happening since forever.


    #fraud
    #totalfraud
    #epicfraud
    #biggestfraudinhistory


    It's not bad sceince, it is intentional fraud. No IPCC scientist is allowed to come to any other conclusion, or he is FINISHED, science my arse
     
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    Huh? In what way did I represent (let alone misrepresent) what the IPCC is? I simply said that as far I could tell, there was no direct funding of the course.

    I'm not sure what your point is. But whatever, I'm tired and really can't be arsed. If you want to take that to mean you've won the "argument", go for it.
     
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    Now pretends not to know what's going on. <doh>


    Got anything to back up your man made climate change beliefs ? If not I'm really not interested. <ok>
     
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    Got anything to back-up your assertion that I believe in man-made climate change?
     
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    I don't care if you do or not, this is not a discussion about what you do or do not believe


    Well given you are questioning my beliefs, and you've done so before, you usually show up when Astro is here not discussing the salient points, but rather discussing me.
    This question is? solar energy is free except for the cost on installing panels. Obvious, being a smart as, transparent you are<ok>



    Obviously my last commet had nothing to do with the IPCC, you made that connection, the comment was intentionally separated from the rest of the post.. You just made a stupid attempt at being funny? or winding me up? Because otherwise the only other option is you are a dimwit.

    It was obviously humour or did I seriously mean I would wipe out humanity?

    So if you actually got nothing on the topic..
     
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    Never once mentioned your beliefs, just individual statements/phrases. And any Astro connection is pure coincidence,

    Just being a smart-arse. <ok> Although you are ignoring maintenance costs.

    You choose.

    Can never be quite certain with you... <whistle>

    Nope. <ok>

    Night mate.
     
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    Exactly, you never had any intention, you were just here to hang out with the cool kids like Astro, and try be funny like him <ok>

    You didn't pull it off btw.
    #fail
     
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    Internet forums are where all the cool kids hang out.
     
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    Ta.
     
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    This is what they are teaching these MMCC denier fighters, clearly this is propagnada, slating anyone who dissents before hearing their argument. They just prove my point. This is how disinformation works.

    Everyone who leaves this "training" will categorise everyone who dissents as "in denial" because "they don't have the evidence" cos if they "did" they would believe MMCC is real".
    This is indoctrination. Info graphics are an excellent tool for delivering propaganda. They are a marketing tool, why does one need to market "C(lie)mate change? Cos it's bullshit

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    Here's some propaganda propaganda :D
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    <laugh> from the guy who visits climate change denial websites, where articles are selectively misquoted to fit the pre-existing conclusion that it's all a #conspiracy
     
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    Surely all his meltdowns are what's causing global warming.
     
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    Have you actually got anything to back up what you believe.

    Again you are talking about me, this is how you defend your beliefs? Never discuss the facts or scientific posts, but cast as much doubt on the person debating with you as possible.That's what you do. Not really fitting for a climate change debate is it really

    And no, without your stupid laughey smileys, most MOST of the stuff I posted is not from "denial sites"

    just from yesterday for example.
    Forbes Magazine piece on the fraud of the 97% which I can cross reference if you like with other sources. Forbes is not a denial site
    A lit of scientists who have been wrongly categorised as dissenting is not denial, it's factual
    A report from a british antarctic expedition that we do not know how much ice there is, is not denial, it's factual
    My links to institutes of science like the the danish work on cloud formation, is not denial, its scientific.

    I discussed natural sources of CO2
    IPCC charts
    Relevant historical data from ice cores
    Natural climate events of historical record and more
    Proven factual contradictions between IPCC data and EPA data
    #notdenialsites


    You ignore all of that and put up a stupid post about conspiracy when in fact I am using plenty of "science" to make my point that IPCC models are incomplete.

    You made a stupid comment about "oil #conspiracy" I replied with 5 good reasons why that was nonsense, you come back with "oh you really hate the IPCC sisu" O RLY?

    I am making a case, you are slagging me off. Why do you bother Astro?

    Also, are you saying infographics are not used to input ideas and thoughts into people's minds? Surely you are not that ignorant? Why do you think subliminal messaging was banned from TV ads in the 80s? How does that relate to "denial sites"?

    I await your one or two line funny reply with laugh smiles and #conspiracy claims



    Its ironc, you are the sort of person that needs those MMCC warrior classes to be able to "deal" with the likes of me<laugh>
    Here you go, sign up, it's an online MOOC
    https://www.edx.org/course/making-sense-climate-science-denial-uqx-denial101x

    At least then you can offer a coherent defence of what you believe. That's all I am doing.
     
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