I think we all can see a difference in the attitude of our team since MH left and then another change in the right direction when HR left. But it is all too much, too little, too late. Our spirit in the team is now better than it has been for several years and yet it is still not good enough to get us the results we need and is not as good as the spirit in other teams around us, such as Leicester and Hull. On Paper, we should be finishing above at least 3 other teams, with more resources and arguably a better squad. We do not have the spirit to get enough points we might need out of the remaining games (even if all those points could save us (it's no longer in our hands)). We do, on the other hand, have enough spirit to stay in this league if we started this season all over again now. What does this tell us? It means it's all too ****ing late. And why is this? Because those who make the decisions at the top of the club have made absolute clowns of themselves since day one of their takeover. Good old Tony, the Mittals, etc. The saviors. Such good people. So good that they all are huge tax avoiders. Imagine the perfect profile of the perfect person to come in and take ownership. Is it a super rich playboy who spends part of his time in the country only, avoids tax to a large degree and owns/owned a formula one team and an airline company, or a multinational steel business, etc? Do these people have good intentions? It depends what you mean. Do they want QPR to win the match when they sit in the VIP area at the ground on a match day? Of course they do. In that instance, they are totally on the same side as us. Do they have good intentions generally in life? Do they care about the lives of the supporters who pay the entrance fee, those who would directly benefit from their fair tax payments? And have they made good decisions ever since the day where they suddenly became interested in QPR's fate (before which they had absolutely no interest)? Don't fall for the bollocks that these capitalists spout out. They know how to talk a good game... that's their business; money for nothing. Having distaste for them doesn't stop you from being a true QPR supporter, in the same way that being disatisfied with our politicians and leaders does not stop you from being British or make you unpatriotic. If I met Tony I'd tell him to kindly sling his hook after doing the right thing (leaving us with no debt). please log in to view this image
I am no fan of Tony and have previously promised myself to not comment on your ramblings, but as you seem addicted to try and get replies have a go on this - These owners have got us 250M GBP in debt - they did not want that, that they have been stupid beyond stupidity is unquestionable. Is Tony a one man marketing and branding army? - You bet he is, that's what he can do, don't blame him for doing something he excels at.. You want him to leave and at the same time ask him and his partners to take a full hit - why would he do that? Stupidity is one thing insanity another. You have a go at Tony and his partenrs for complying to current tax laws - no evidence of any wrong doing - have you ever paid for anything in cash? You state that on paper we should be finishing above 3 other teams - that must be the same paper you've just mistakenly wiped your hands with after you know what as you're typing ****e!!!
I can't see how you can argue that we have a better squad. On paper our squad includes the following: old, injured, don't care, looking forward to being elsewhere, inexperienced and useless. Edit....and loanees
The irony is that if Derby and not QPR had won the play-offs at the end of last season, and this season in the Championship we were sitting in the top half, in, or with a prospect of getting into the play-offs, we'd all be feeling pretty pukka. Sure, its been a big disappointment this season and torture to watch at times, but with Prem monies and parachute payments, we must be financially better off - and as for me, I'm still grateful that Bobby slotted that goal. That Wembley final was one of the most surrealistic and wonderful experiences of my life!
Don't think anyone would disagree Goldie but I bet your backside is as sore as mine after this massive bump back down to earth. How many on here can genuinely say they have enjoyed this season?. I haven't.
Agree Madrid, have to say i find the whole Premier League thing a right pain, it's so over hyped, totally geared towards the supposed big 4 - 6 teams, it's far from enjoyable and the fact that we have absolutely zero chance of ever winning it begs the question why bother? Football sold its soul in 1992.
When you think about it two years in the premiership struggling and relegated, one in the championship, terrible football and lucky to get promoted, and another poor struggling season in the premiership. About eight games I have enjoyed at home in four seasons and the play off final. Not really good value for money for four years season tickets.
I agree with Tramore Swordsie. This league makes me sick. It is all about Sky and them hyping it up. As has been shown by the results in the European competitions, it is far from the best in terms of quality. Don't even get me started on the ticket rip off prices. Give me the Championship any day of the week.
I felt before we won at Wembley that another season in the championship would probably serve us better. Maybe as most say if HR was gone before the start of the season just maybe we would be sitting comfortably above the drop zone then again TF would have gone for another dud and therefore we wouldn't have Chris Ramsey in charge. Wherever we are I think it will be best that CR is at the helm as everytime we make a small step forward TF wants us to take a giant leap forward and we end up back on our arse and 3 steps back
You have to take those two sentences in context with the rest of my post which you left out. 1. The PL is hyped by sky. 2. It does not produce the best team in Europe. 3. The ticket prices are a rip off. Therefore............ Give me the Championship any day of the week. Comprendes?????
What does the comparison with other European leagues have to do with it? We're not in Europe.The comparison is between the PL & the NPC. In that case, as poor as the PL may be, it still makes the Championsh*t look like a Sunday pub league
Nobody is comparing the PL and the Championship. Read Tramore's post again. I agreed with him that the PL is not enjoyable and is overhyped. The Championship is not the same standard of football but it is not hyped, the fans are more hard-core and the players aren't such over paid diving prima donnas and you don't get ripped off on ticket prices. That is what I prefer about the Championship. Shame there are far less streams but for the paying punter, the games are far more enjoyable.
What I don't like about the Premier League is how it is only set up for the wealthy and top six teams, everyone else is merely there to make up the numbers. The biggest losers are us poor fans who build up hopes to be playing with the big boys but in reality have limited chance. Just look back at the teams who have finished in the top six over the past five years. There is more football ambition in the Championship with a more even playing field for all of the clubs. Just look at how the likes of Bournemouth & Watford have progressed up the league over a few years. The footballing concern is that the gulf between Championship and Premier League is too great in terms of financial reward and quality of attracted players, coupled with the TV demands of Sky & now BT Sport and desires of "ambitious chairman/owners, the league is screwing up football. The effect is huge and if you are unfortunate like QPR, it hurts you both financially and personally as you are caught in a vicious circle of continuing to gamble with resources in the hope of one more roll of the dice will come up with the jackpot. Sadly, you get stung badly before realising what is really happening.
All this how great the Championship stuff is just sour grapes. If we had done what we aimed at mid table PL, few would be bleating about the Championship being better. The PL Is over rated globally, and costly, but no way is Championship football better to watch.
Well Swordsy....It is like going to see your favourite band...let make up a name...let us call them REM. You get all excited waiting to see them....because they don't come over very often. Then they do....but you find the tickets are 100pounds...What the f@@@ No but that's ok, because they are REM and they don't come over very often So you pay the money and wait Then the big day comes...and you are so excited And you get there and find your ticket buys you a seat at the back...you cannot see anything and nearly hear anything...cause all the rich fat cats have bought all the seats at the front and are standing up and shouting and ruining the view So you leave and outside the venue you find a couple of kids playing and everyone is gathered around. Everyone is singing an
There are just as many streams * The PL being hyped is neither here nor there. If you've a problem with that you're obviously getting sucked up into it. Don't allow yourself to. Exercise some self control. * The fans are hard-core? Most of our fans will be the same regardless of the division. * Ticket prices? Yes they're far too dear but would you prefer to watch an inferior product for that saving? Pick & choose your PL games and watch the others on TV would be a solution to that. Then you can save money & still be watching good quality football. * Its a load of nonsense anyway. You only hear this Championship fan-boy talk when we're nailed on to go down. If we'd won our last 4 instead of Leicester you'd be over the moon at the prospect of us staying in the Prem. (At least I think you would be. If not, the elevator don't go all the way to the top with you son)
Sorry R4E but you're blaming the wrong people for where we are. You're having a go at football instead of the ineptitude of the owners of our Club. They're the ones you should be directing your fire at. They've spunked a quarter of a Billion quid on our team yet our fans are having a go at Sky!!! Teflon Tony, eh?!
