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HCST - Away Supporters’ Initiative Fund: Where’s the money gone?

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  1. mauled1904

    mauled1904 Well-Known Member

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    Yes, they used my designs for the flags used yesterday, two of the designs have been used to make the bigger flags from the not606 forum.
     
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  2. balkan tiger

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    The other flags without Hull City on them Up The Tigers or whatever, were seen as unpopular by some as it is part of the stealth rebranding, the elimination of the words Hull City.
    The flags yesterday, City legends no-one could object to that even if there is no mention of Hull City, especialy as the idea and design came from the supporters. I think the club has twisted things around and we have actually assisted in the rebranding. And that is something which Fez pointed out a while ago.
    If that is all wrong and I am making more of it than is real, these flags provided by the club have done nothing but muddy the waters.
     
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  3. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    I think the club have just tried to use something which will obviously be popular to try and calm the ocean.

    The flags, on their own merit, are great.

    What won't be great will be if they are just another box to tick for expenditure for the ASI money.

    Claiming that mauled or any other supporter has assisted the club in its evil schemes is wrong. Even if mauled offered his designs in the full knowledge that the club would use them as an attempt to use up the ASI wonga in an inappropriate way, it's still a positive. As I've already said, the club would have done the same anyway with some **** flag designs instead, at least this way the flags at least mean something and look good and there has been some positive use for them.

    The club has done a good enough job driving a wedge between the supporters as it is, we shouldn't let them hijack an excellent initiative from our supporters to become another point of division.
     
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  4. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    As you say, the club used designs that supporters themselves freely chose. Any additional comments beyond that are guesswork.

    Any claims it assists the rebranding are flawed, because the only 'brand' displayed is mauled's style.

    The people making the claim are efectivley doing more to help the rebrand than the flags themselves do.

    On the whole, most people seemed happy with the flags. Twitter is what twitter is.
     
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  5. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    I wish I'd seen that before I wrote my effort. Spot on.
     
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  6. balkan tiger

    balkan tiger Well-Known Member

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    What we really need is some communication from the club, if only there was a communication manager or something like that. But not Mr Allam because, his words get twisted, his English is not so good I didn't mean that, I was only joking, etc etc.
     
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  7. Fez

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    This is the essence of my position regarding the continuation of the banner project; as is now becoming clear, Allam considers nothing off-limits in venting his spleen at those who do not conform to his diktat. The unfortunate thing is that most of the reassurances that were thrown at me have now been proven to be false; the banners did not fall inside of the 'unauthorised' limits, they exceeded the limit and were offered up to his minions for their sanction. (Cringeworthy in the circumstances) It can be seen that the club's name could have been used, but wasn't. If it were, would they have been allowed is a question that was clearly avoided. Now the project is intertwined in the club's shabby attempt at deflecting criticism of their piss-poor ASI plans.

    A really good concept could and should have been delayed for better times.
     
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  8. DMD

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    The flags being well received by most seems to disprove your claim.
     
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  9. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    I agree.
     
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  10. Fez

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    There is a difference between efforts being directly involved and efforts being indirectly used. You chose to ignore that difference to justify your argument, which is a pity, as it pulls Mauled into an unnecessary position of blame. Unfortunately, the further down the road the collaboration with the club goes, the more the project becomes sullied and that is a damn shame.
     
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  11. DMD

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    The sullying, if it exists at all, is being done by one or two posters on here.

    Other people see flags, and seem quite happy with them.
     
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  12. DMD

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    It's shocking how fans are being used to progress the name change. Why isn't HULL displayed on the picture?

    please log in to view this image
     
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  13. PLT

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    It is.

    Mr Hat would have pointed it out if I hadn't.
     
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  14. Fez

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    Your argument is just that, an argument, as it has no merit whatsoever. The flags, banners, (which are you discussing?) are what they are, the banners were a good idea, poorly timed and poorly concluded (we have yet to see the new ones displayed), the flags are a club initiative that has hijacked your excellent theme and been used as a part of their broader campaign of attrition against the supporters.

    Please, spare me the so-called evidence of success; the Nuremberg rallies thrived on flags and banners. Clever people know how to ingratiate their cause with the general masses.
     
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  15. DMD

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    <laugh>

    The scarf toward the bottom right? I saw it as I posted and toyed with setting a 'where's wally' type challenge.
     
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  16. DMD

    DMD Eh? Forum Moderator

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    What a load of crap.
     
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  17. originallambrettaman

    originallambrettaman Mod Moderator Staff Member

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    Bullshit, people on social media are now connecting not606 banners with the club's misuse of the ASI fund and that's a crying shame.

    These images are no longer not606 images, they're the clubs images and the two should have been kept separate in my opinion.
     
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  18. DMD

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    Good job we've got you on the job to put them right then. <ok>

    It's not as though there's anything to show that it is ASI money that funded them.
     
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  19. Fez

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    That is a very desperate attempt at deflecting criticism of your argument. You and I both know that Hull was always a part (allegedly) of the name-change, whereas City was not. Your argument is becoming very shabby and more Allamesque as it progresses.
     
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  20. balkan tiger

    balkan tiger Well-Known Member

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    Of course the flags were well recieved they are of City legends.
    If more of the tee shirts were given out, some would have got thrown on the pitch.
    If the flags were up the tigers, they would not have been so popular.
    The club has not yet said these flags were part of the ASI, in fact they havn't said anything and its about time they did.
     
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