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Discussion in 'Watford' started by Leo, Aug 31, 2014.

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  1. Toby

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    You know nothing about my situation, and you are wrong.

    Keep up your childish approach to debating <applause>
     
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  2. aberdeenhornet

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    The conservatives will be requested to form a government and will do so with another LibDem alliance even then as minority but the only viable alliance to govern. Labour and the SNP are so at polar opposites on key issues either the electorate will see this before the elections and vote for the sensible choice or at worst they will come clean at some point and admit they are so far opposed it would be immoral to join forces just for power, politicians would never do that would they? Farage and his crew will lose credibility completely even to the mindless following they currently have, expect some dirty tricks from the mainstream but well timed to achieve this. There is no way I woud accept rule of a little boy like Miliband and his useless sidekick aptly named balls..... If you really want a return to overspending populism at the expense of real future vote for Labour, if you want a solid future for our children then you know there is only one way to vote, for the party thats done an excellent job of getting the country back on a path to greater prosperity for all.
     
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  3. yorkshirehornet

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    erm..... GREEN :)
     
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  4. Bolton's Boots

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    There speaks someone who obviously knows zilch about the SNP and their hopes/plans - probably because all his 'information' comes from the Telegraph or similar, whilst clearly not knowing who directs their editorial policy. If he actually sat down and bothered to put some thought into the matter, the realisation would hit home that the Tories are doing far more to cause the break-up of the Union with their current attitudes and actions than the SNP could ever hope to achieve. And it more than likely won't take anything like 'a few years'.


    A little glance at some historical data would reveal that statement to be little more than nonsense. Osborne, Cameron's unqualified bagman, places great store in % rise in GDP as being an indicator of an improving economy - he must do as he takes every opportunity to trumpet about it. The simple fact is that, up to the 'crash', GDP under Labour showed steady percentage increases over the five years up to that point - increases at twice the rate of those in the tories five years since falling into power. Labour were unfortunate enough to be johnnies-on-the-spot when the global crash happened - but to place the blame on their shoulders, as you appear to be doing, is not only ridiculous but flies in the face of what the rest of the world recognises as being the main reason, namely the subprime mortgage fiasco which led to the collapse of Lehman Bros and the like.

    I do, however, agree with your 'who could seriously vote for Miliband and Balls statement - incompetents but a far better option than Cameron and his crew of idiots and nasties. I'm glad that I'm not in a situation where I have to waste a vote on any of them.
     
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  5. superhorns

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    It is nonsense to compare growth in the pre crash period to post crash. The only sensible comparison is the UK against other western countries especially in the EU. Osbourne has done a marvellous job in the most difficult circumstances, reducing the deficit, raising employment in the private sector, and providing growth that other countries can only dream about.

    The sub prime mortgage and complicated bundles of loans which very few understood were the main cause of the crash. Where Labour was at fault was the excessive borrowing and spending prior to the crash. Their mantra that the state must be enlarged at all costs is their downfall.
     
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  6. yorkshirehornet

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    I know first hand about the French health service as do a number of members of this group.

    I can tell you in so many ways it is so much better than the UK. I wont go into it because I don't need to.

    I don't get why you resort to such banal comments.

    A hint of the Farage?
     
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    I also know first hand how good the french health service, it is excellent. If you read my post properly it does not denigrate the service but to state that the french no longer allow ex pats to join their system as previously. Unless working there you now need to arrange private medical cover after the first two years which is covered by the UK. On reaching retirement age expats would be able to join their system. On living in France for five years ex pats would also qualify.

    The socialist government will be chucked out at the next election as they have failed the electorate miserably.
     
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    Well yes.... and...?
     
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  9. superhorns

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    What advice are you seeking sunshine?
     
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  10. Toby

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    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-32446342

    I thought it was the 'socialists' and the Greens that were the real thread to big businesses in this country? :huh:

    It looks like the Tories and UKIP's ideas are the ones causing the concern? :huh:

    Maybe the scaremongering thrown about by the ardent conservatives on here is bullplop?

    So many questions...

    So many obvious answers...

    'Mon the next Labour coalition <applause>
     
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    The tories are cutting down on bad bank practices and properly taxing the banks unlike Labour managed to do in 13 years.

    The idea that we could have a lefty government has already spooked the financial markets as they know that big government and extra taxes on private companies will lead to financial problems as in the past. Investors will look elsewhere to put their money to the detriment of all of us.
    The left has never understood that you need to create wealth before it can be shared out. Because Labour is reliant on the unions it is unable to provide the right conditions for entrepreneurs to perform to their best.
     
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    Yet again, you completely ignore my post and spout a load of clichéd rubbish.

    As mentioned much earlier in this thread, the Tories were calling for less banking regulation before and after the GLOBAL financial crisis a few years ago.

    Please learn how to read.
     
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    I'm afraid the tories were calling for less regulation which was a mistake. That does not make my comments above any less truthful.
     
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    Almost mirrors the UK then? :)
     
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    And the right has never understood the proper meaning of 'shared out' - 1000 for me and 1 for you comes nowhere close.
     
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  16. superhorns

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    It is really obvious that some posters have had extremely limited life experiences. I shudder to think of myself cocooned in the factory job I had when I left school surrounded by whinging lefty's and baseless union propaganda.
     
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    another bigoted disrespectful judgment.....

    I am really glad the two party system is lurching to an end.... and we can have some balance and hopefully a govt that is more representative of all...
     
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  18. yorkshirehornet

    yorkshirehornet Well-Known Member

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    I am sure that many posters will vote tory or even ukip... but there is a way we go about debating... as 606 friends and not with antagonistic rhetoric...... cmon...
     
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  19. Bolton's Boots

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    If you are referring to me, then once again you don't know what you are talking about. I'd hazard a guess that I've had more life experiences than most, having lived and worked in three continents and having a cv with a wide ranging employment history - ranging from factory labouring to managing a government department. Fortunately, during my time working in (more than one) factory, I was able to view life without a bigoted outlook and enjoy the humanity of each situation. Something which, I suspect, is totally outwith the capabilities of Cameron and his ilk.
     
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  20. yorkshirehornet

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    <doh>

    You really behave as a prat.

    Been on this board and 606 before for many years and rarely come across deprecating antagonism from a so called Watford supporter.

    Do you get pleasure out of it?


    I wonder what your views are on respecting the views of others and engaging with respect?
     
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