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Wenger vs Mourinho Tactics...

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by bobo_97, Apr 20, 2015.

  1. BrunelGooner

    BrunelGooner Well-Known Member

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    Off the top of my head, we've had two excellent chances to beat Mourinho's Chelsea which we ended up fluffing.

    The first one was at Stamford Bridge when we took the lead and were winning 1-0. Then Essien scored the wonder strike, but I still felt that we were in control of that game (from what I remember) and should have won.

    The other game, which was even more annoying, was in 2007 I think it was when we were leading Chelsea 1-0 and they had a man sent off, yet they still managed to salvage a draw. That pissed me off big time because we had a real chance to get one over on him.

    If we had won that, we may have had more confidence going into games against Mourinho's teams, but because we haven't won and the media always remind us how Wenger hasn't beaten Mourinho yet, I think it can sometimes play on the players' minds.
     
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  2. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    Wenger v Maureen history means **** all. We've got every chance of beating them at home. We've already put the ****e to bed that Arsenal can't beat the big teams by winning at OT and the Etihad. Maureen will be ****ting himself about losing to Arsenal and Wenger.
     
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  3. BrunelGooner

    BrunelGooner Well-Known Member

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    I wish this was true, but the fact that they have had public outbursts about one another, constantly take snide digs at each other and have made it clear they don't like each other means that it does add spice to the fixture. Wenger may not show it to the press, but I'm sure it does irk him that he hasn't beaten Mourinho in 12 attempts.

    Wenger's managed to get the better over a lot of top class managers in his career, but Mourinho is not one of them. I'm sure deep down he really does want to get one over the Special ****. Especially after he was labelled a 'Specialist in Failure'.

    That he's always reminded about the record by journalists and pundits must make his blood boil to a degree. I wouldn't blame him if it did.
     
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  4. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    If we beat United and City away every year but failed to the league every year would that satisfy you?

    Stop swearing so much, it offends me:emoticon-0107-sweat
     
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  5. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    No and **** off :)
     
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  6. PINKIE

    PINKIE Wurzel Gummidge

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    There's obviously some needle between them, but I don't think it will make any difference to the game on the pitch on Sunday.
     
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  7. cini65

    cini65 Well-Known Member

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    Quite amusing bants from Mourinho taking the piss out of Wenger and defending.

    "it (defending) isn't easy. If it was easy you wouldn't lose 3-1 at home to Monaco".
     
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  8. Mantis

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    Chelsea sure made it look hard when they lost 5-3 to Sp*rs.
     
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  9. BITKOSB

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    Gooner delusion as per. Run that easy bit by me again. chels6vs0Goons.jpg

    Ashley Cole has won this. Ashley Cole won the European Cup.jpg Arsenal never will. :emoticon-0140-rofl:
     
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  10. Arsenal87

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    Too bad you will never actually 'win' things, have to buy your way to trophies, that is the fact, without Russian money, you'd still be the same useless club you were pre-2004, but funny you Chelski fans like to forget this, but not a surprise really considering you lot are the biggest plastic fans in the country.
     
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  11. BITKOSB

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    Ooooh, you little bitch, scratch me. :emoticon-0140-rofl: Have a good <wah> and let it all go. :grin:

    'We're the only team in London with a European Cup'.

    None of your 4 clubs ( Dial Square, Woolwich, Royal or Arsenal) have EVER won it. :emoticon-0136-giggl:emoticon-0136-giggl

    Specialists in changing names, specialists in moving grounds, specialists of being a South London Club moving to North London.<cheers>
     
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  12. afcftw

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    Specialists at being the most successful club in London, specialists at being the most successful club in the FA Cup and specialists at being the third most successful club in the country. All things I'm sure Chelsea aspire to be, unfortunately for you it'd take decades of Chelsea success and arsenal failure for that to occur ;)
     
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  13. BITKOSB

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    Even Blackpool and Preston won a few bits back then. You'll do well remembering toppling the Royal Engineers all those years ago as you travelled like gypsies all over London.

    You continue acting all Liverpoolesque bleating on about yesteryear, we'll carry on picking up the stuff that matters in the modern era.

    Cesc had to change his colours to blue to become an English champion. That's just seriously amusing. :emoticon-0136-giggl

    Anyway lads, let's not dwell. We've took the pi55 out of you yet again and Mourinho continues to laugh at Wenger. arsenal piss take.jpg
     
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  14. Arsenal87

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    Better than being specialists in racism, you been abusing any minorities lately?
     
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  15. BITKOSB

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    All the time mate. After all we're the NF/BM/COMBAT18 rolled into one. Find us another racist political party and we'll be level with the amount of clubs you've been formed as and parts of London you've Gypsied yourselves around. :embarrassed::embarrassed::embarrassed:

    Anyway, it's getting warm in here. chelsea heat map.jpg
     
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  16. Arsenal87

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    Enjoy winning, or should I say, buying your 4th league title, only took 300 billion of spent money. Lol you can literally count all your league wins on one hand....We will enjoy our 13, which we actually earned through hard work.
     
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  17. BrunelGooner

    BrunelGooner Well-Known Member

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    I think it's quite incredible that Mourinho plays to preserve his 'undefeated' record against Wenger, rather than to play a proper entertaining football match. It's not like Chelsea don't have the players for it, either.

    Mourinho is a coward. Always has been, always will be.

    And no matter what he wins, Wenger will always be held in higher regard than that tosspot.
     
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  18. BITKOSB

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    Enjoy it? I love every single moment. One club, one name, one ground, one European Cup, Zero Wenger vs Jose wins. <sorry> but this is the reality.

    Bruno - your a good, decent and usually honest poster so I give you a respectful response. If you hate Mourinho then fair enough but calling him a coward is way off the mark. He respects you are a good side and plays accordingly making it difficult where you are strongest. I apologise if he refuses to lay down and have his tummy tickled like many others do at the library. I further apologise for his cowardice in only smashing you by just the 6 last season and had we not took our foot off the pedal you'd have been on the end of double figures.

    A good strong defensive display is now called parking the bus by the press hungry whores when back in the day of George Graham it was organization, hard work and 1.0 to the Arsenal. You lot have very short memories.
     
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  19. BrunelGooner

    BrunelGooner Well-Known Member

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    Aside from the 6-0, the usual Arsenal v Mourinho Chelsea matches are very cagey and tight affairs resulting in draws or narrow losses. I can't justify what happened that day and there is no excuse for it whatsoever, but it happened and it is a memory which will forever be in the minds of Arsenal supporters. Both of Wenger's 500th and 1000th games ruined by Mourinho. Tragic.

    My issue isn't that Mourinho doesn't play to our strengths. My issue is that with the money you've spent and the array of attacking talent you have in your team, he refuses to let them blossom and showcase their talent. Prior to the Arsenal game, you needed 6 points from 5 games to secure the title. The title is more or less sewn up and your team know it as well. Why not give your players the freedom to express themselves? Even if you lost, you then have 4 games to get 6 points. That's 2 wins you need.

    That's why I say he was more concerned with preserving his record against Wenger, rather than actually trying to win the football match. You could have still won the game by trying to play attractive football. As I've said, it isn't like you've not got the players for it.

    People may point to the fact that we only had 1 shot on target in the game, but I think we all know what Chelsea came to set out and do.

    I can only remember what it's been like under Wenger and wasn't old enough to know too much about George Graham's era, but that's an entirely different generation and the expectations of the fans have changed from 20 years ago. The landscape of football is entirely different now.

    Chelsea fans won't care about playing a few dull games if it wins them trophies and I understand that. Equally however I also feel if you're going to spend ridiculous money on players, your expectations should also be having an improved style of play, rather than just being efficient.

    You probably won't agree, but it's just my view.
     
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  20. Smirnoffpriest

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    I remember the George Graham days (at least the latter Graham days) and the press weren't complimentary about the style - it was 'Lucky Arsenal', hoof ball, 'Boring, Boring Arsenal' ect.

    The only difference is that we had Steve Morrow, Andy Lingham, Alan Smith and Ray Parlour in our team - Chelsea have spent around a billion on their team since Abramovich has taken over, and despite having some of the most expensive players in history, and an array of attacking players that a lot of clubs would kill for - they still play park the bus football, trying to contain rather than entertain.

    And of course then Mourinho moans whenever anyone else plays defensive against him...
     
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