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2 strikers are a must !!

Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by Milnermino Lamborini, Apr 20, 2015.

  1. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    Danny Ings fits the perfect profile of a recent Liverpool signing

    - flavour of the month - tick

    - One season wonder - tick

    - A bit of a sicknote - tick

    - massively over priced - oh wait

    Sorry, my mistake, as you were
     
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  2. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    I'm not too fussed about him really - I think he has shown good hold up play, and that provides another option. Offers more than a simple big target man that you can lump the ball up to. Put him alongside a partner and he can be effective.

    Borini and Lambert on the other hand are just useless in any set up.
     
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  3. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Wish I could counter that ... but it's true.

    I hope we see sense and not sign him.
     
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  4. luvgonzo

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    This is the only part of the potential transfer that makes me think why not? But that is as long as we are still in for another player.
     
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  5. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    He wouldn't play enough to get his confidence as a Liverpool player imo. He'd always be viewed as 'back up' and that's a difficult role for a striker who's been first pick for years. I think it's be a crap move for both parties, irrespective of the fee.
     
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  6. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    Certainly see your point. From a playing perspective, it would be better to go somewhere like a proper mid-table side where he would start quite a few games. Could Swansea be a good fit? But if Liverpool come with the extra money and the attraction of playing for a big club, would he turn it down? Would you?

    Anyway, if Sturridge spends the season injured again and Origi is as bad as people would have us believe, he may well not be back-up...
     
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  7. luvgonzo

    luvgonzo Pisshead

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    Agreed we should be starting with Studge, a new striker and/or Origi as backup so outside of that should be the likes of Sinclair and Yesil no point having players like Ings sat on the bench.
     
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  8. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    I think the likes of Swansea would be the perfect next move for him. If he got the offer from Liverpool I'm sure he'd find it difficult to refuse though.
     
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  9. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    Agree. Although Ings has more league goals this season than our four proper strikers combined...
     
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  10. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    The image suddenly popped into my head of us buying Ings then loaning him to Villa for a season as sweetener to help us buy Benteke. The scary thing is, it's not entirely implausible.
     
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  11. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    We should not be signing Ings under any circumstances. Even as a back up.

    If we end up signing the likes of Ings and Milner, then we really can cement our status as a mid table club.

    Where is the ambition?
     
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  12. Milnermino Lamborini

    Milnermino Lamborini Well-Known Member

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    Fully agree with you Jimmy. What Suarez did was play at a high level and others raised their games. No need bringing mid table players.

    As I said before, if we are signing players they have to be of a higher calibre. If the Sturridges, Coutinho and Sterlings of this world know their positions are in danger they will raise their games a notch higher and the team will benefit from constructive competition.

    To play with a Suarez type of player you have to be in sync with his speed of thought and level of play and it is no surprise most of our players looked better than this season.
     
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  13. BobbyD

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    Is that like your Mafia strategy? Ill thought out and not well received ;).

    Firstly what in your mind thinks Villa will let Benteke go who Sherwood has made an absolute beast (admittedly if you offered a large amount and Benteke forced a move through). Secondly, Ings is able to join anyone he wants for free, firstly if Villa really wanted him they'd get him. Secondly it wouldn't look good on Liverpool to sign Ings just to use him as a make weight.

    I think Benteke for you guys would do great though, he's a player i quite like and wouldn't mind Chelsea getting.

    As for everyone sticking it to balotelli, i don't think he's that bad of a player. The few times he's come on where he's had a strike partner he actually looks pretty decent. As a lone forward he's useless though. Doesn't make runs, doesn't like to stay in the middle and doesn't like to stretch the defence. As for him within Rodgers game plan, i don't think he fits at all as Rodgers likes pass and move whilst Balotelli likes to wonder in the space, receive the ball and try something magical, slowing the whole attack down. Maybe he can be a plan B but not a replacement as a lone striker.

    Not sure that's a good example of striking quality depth.

    Chelsea - Costa is great and so is Remy, really highly rate Remy actually (not sure why you guys dropped him). Drogba is old and past it and i would take any pool striker over him. Even Lambert has to be faster than Drogs right now!

    City - Bony hasn't done much (hasn't really had a chance), Jovetic isn't really a striker, more a sterling/lallana type. Aguero of course is WC and Dzeko is a solid number 2 (not this season though)

    Arsenal - Giroud is quality, Welbeck is a slightly more athletic Borini (this is not a compliment) and Sanchez is again the sterling/Lallana type. He's absolutely pants up front and cannot play the CF role.

    United - Rooney is good, Persie is old and past it, Falcao is fat and useless (so far anyway)

    All in all i would say everyones first choice is quality and their 2nd choice is generally good to useless. The problem for you guys have been Sturridge has been injured and your 2nd is also useless. Now that sturridge has been back, he's also been very disappointing and not sure whether thats injury related or no suarez
     
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  14. Germlands Nozzer

    Germlands Nozzer Well-Known Member

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    Would that be the mafia game that we won without breaking a sweat? ;)

    Why would Benteke go? As you said, money. Villa would accept a decent offer, I feel. And Benteke will want to move t oa club that's playing in Europe at some point, I would think. Villa aren't at that standard at the moment.

    I did say loan Ings to Villa, not sell him. He would get another year's experience as a hopefully starting 11 striker, this time at a bigger club. Reckon Sherwood could do a job with him as well. He's got the incentive of knowing that he does well, then Liverpool will want to hold onto him. Meanwhile we get another year to check out his development, with at least some of his wages covered.

    I also didn't say I thought it would happen, just that it wasn't entirely implausible <laugh> RHC said we considered Benteke in the summer, while he was still injured.
     
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  15. BobbyD

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    fair enough. Just an odd way of putting it, sort of like, I don't think its very likely, but Falcao could join Liverpool.

    Anyway didn't your Mafia team lose as well? It was the Ityes who won :p.
     
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  16. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    What about Everton?

    Other than Lukaku you don't really have anyone else up there, on a freebie could do a lot worse?
     
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  17. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    We play with one up he'd face the same lack of playing time issue he'd have at your spot. I think for his own career he needs to go to a club where he'll be a starter every week and that wouldn't be us.
     
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  18. InBiscanWeTrust

    InBiscanWeTrust Rome, London, Paris, Rome, Istanbul, Madrid Forum Moderator

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    Would you take him as a back up though?
     
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  19. Tobes

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    Not sure tbh, I'm unconvinced by the small amount I've seen of him.
     
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  20. Red Hadron Collider

    Red Hadron Collider The Hammerhead

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    We did, seriously apparently. My mate asked Rodgers recently if he'd consider Benteke again and the answer was no. Not strong enough. Is that a good thing? He has terrorised our defence on a few occasions.
     
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