It wasn't the media that promised to buy the ground back on 3 seperate occassions. It wasn't the media that sacked McDermott and re-hired him. It wasn't the media that hired Hockaday and then Darko. It wasn't the media that failed to pay tax on 2 yachts and a Range Rover thus failing the fit and proper test. It wasn't the media that that broke the Macron contract resulting in another pending court case. It wasn't the media that sacked the assistant manager when the results had improved. It wasn't the media that made half the staff redundant so that his 2 sons could earn hefty director wages. It wasn't the media that said McCormack would not be sold a week before selling him. It wasn't the media that bought about 3 seperate winding-up orders in the past 6 months. It wasn't the media that broke the Cameron Stewart contract and therefore cannot do business with the biggest footballing agency in Europe. It wasn't the media that signed 2 players that failed medicals. It wasn't the media that closed Thorpe Arch in the summer and had players making their own packed lunches. etc etc etc
I can't believe there are Leeds fans that are still blindly following Cellino after all that's happened mate - where's the fookin logic?
I'm not TC, I know you're a piss taker, but even I've got off the fence........and you do talk some sense(**** that hurt me to say that)
For the record, I find it perfectly credible that some of these players are genuinely injured (I'd hope Silvestri and Ant)
Actually got the fees off wiki, with a cross check of bbc Bellusci was the other loan signing we purchased. Agree that we'll never know where the money goes, and you're right in saying as fans, we don't really need to know that information. It's just irksome that we continually sell our best/most promising players every season and never, ever replace them with similar quality. McCormack's season may have been a one off feat he'll never match again, but he's still netted 16 goals in a dire Fulham team this year - why didn't we replace his goals? We had £11m (admittedly not all up front and I know there's bound to be clauses etc, but you understand my point). We sold our two best strikers who scored over 40 goals between them - we've struggled to hit 40 as an entire squad this year. Whether you like/rate Doukara/Antenucci/Sharp is irrelevant - none of them come close to matching Smith and McCormack's records last year. To be fair, Bianchi's stats are better than I thought they'd be, but I still maintain stats can be manipulated in any manner you wish to construe them. The fact is, when Bianchi was on the pitch, we were still getting outplayed in midfield (even vs Derby I thought they won the midfield battle). It's not just a problem with the current midfielders, it's an issue prevalent in the entire squad. Bianchi was a regular when we dropped to within 1 (? it was 1 or 2...) point of the relegation zone. If he was playing so well, why were we so pathetic, and why did we pick up more points when we replaced him with Murphy, for instance? It's all well and good having high passing success rates and interceptions per game but if you're still losing games perhaps you have to try something else.
Could it possibly be that Murphy was a DM, & Bianchi was an AM? Square peg. Round hole. Redders speciality!
Don't recall Murphy ever playing as a specialised DM at any point in his Leeds career, and by all accounts at Crewe he had free reign in the midfield. I think we're all in agreement that Redders isn't the answer, but some of the criticism is really scrapping the barrel now. Square pegs in round holes is somewhat of an inevitability until whatever coach is in charge is given a balanced squad with options. Preferably with semi-decent players.
You've clearly forgotten Murphy being played for the first time in an AM role, when he scored. Cellino claimed all credit for suggesting to McD that he should play in the forward role. Remember now?
TC, with respects, A, It wasn't the media that sacked McDermott and re-hired him. BM was obviously sacked for a reason, and from memory GFH were involved. BM's sacking the 2nd time seemed to be justified after we slipped down the table, he's now a scout. B, It wasn't the media that hired Hockaday and then Darko. Hiring any player, manager or coach is a risk in football, no one knows how it'll turn out. The fans, media and Redders himself wanted Redders in the job, he hasn't exactly turned out to be the saviour. Cellino originally didn't want Redders to leave the academy, but he succumbed to the fans wishes. C, It wasn't the media that failed to pay tax on 2 yachts and a Range Rover thus failing the fit and proper test. Cellino had another life before buying LUFC, some people keep harping on about it and use it as an excuse to point the finger. D, It wasn't the media that that broke the Macron contract resulting in another pending court case. I'm not 100% sure on the details to be honest, but the LUFC solicitors have said Macron are unlikely to win their case. E, It wasn't the media that sacked the assistant manager when the results had improved. You're absolutely right, Thommo got himself sacked and was responsible for his own actions and the furore that followed, no one else is to blame. F, It wasn't the media that made half the staff redundant so that his 2 sons could earn hefty director wages I doubt that was the reason for making staff redundant, he had a mess to clean up after GFH, we were losing a lot of money and spending too much. From memory, a lot of Leeds fans were in agreement that something had to be done to try and steady the ship financially. G, It wasn't the media that said McCormack would not be sold a week before selling him. It was McContract who wanted out. He'd previously asked Cellino twice for a transfer, and went running to Skysports to put himself in shop window. From memory Cellino told Fulham McContract would cost them 10 mill, thinking Fulham would back off, was surprised when Fulham agreed and jumped at the chance to get funny money. H, It wasn't the media that bought about 3 seperate winding-up orders in the past 6 months. You're absolutely right, it was the people seeking money from LUFC, but it does make you wonder why they didn't do anything before hand and waited till Cellino was serving his ban. Not 100% sure but wasn't two of them during Cellinos ban? I, It wasn't the media that broke the Cameron Stewart contract and therefore cannot do business with the biggest footballing agency in Europe. I remember reading about this when the news broke, but my minds a bit cloudy on it. Maybe someone knows the full details, but wasn't the contract terminated by mutual agreement? J, It wasn't the media that signed 2 players that failed medicals. I agree, but wasn't it only N'Goyi that was injured when signed? K, It wasn't the media that closed Thorpe Arch in the summer and had players making their own packed lunches. From memory, hadn't the reasons given for closing TA something to do with payments being made during off season when it wasn't in use? I think it was Smith who gave the reasons for having to bring their own lunch, and I think it was just a one off occasion. No one has said Cellino is perfect, but his past is his past and he has to deal with it. He will make mistakes like any other owner or person, he's admitted he underestimated the championship in his 1st season but, the media seem to like to keep Leeds United in turmoil by what they write, and the way they write it, they are the instigators for many of their stories that blow a lot of situations out of proportion. The media are well aware of the LUFC fans emotional frustrations, they not only play on them, but they feed'em as well.
Read back what I said - I said he never played as a specialised DM at any point. Bianchi was bottom of the diamond, Murphy's never played there. Last year Brown played there, not Murphy. DM/CM/AM all have subtle differences.
So there are subtle differences beween a DM/CM/AM, are there? I never knew that. Sarcastic cnut! BMcD played Murphy at DM. I watched it myself, every game he played (apart from the time mentioned above). Brown played that position too, but didn't play in every game.
That's you told, TC. Perhaps you can turn your attention to sorting out your own club? Seems they might be more in need of your help than us!.
I think that's why he's here, to be fair would you want to talk about Millwall if you supported them?
Yes, it has told me LeedsLover is critical of people believing what the red tops say but is quite happy to use them for his own argument
TC, I'm not going to turn this into a battle, I replied respectfully on two occasions to your posts however, instead of saying someone told you, why don't you reveal your source so I may have the opportunity to face my accusers, do you think that would be fair? I don't think I've criticised anyone for believing what the papers say, I have mentioned how I think the media operate and how some tend to believe the media; if I've personally criticised anyone for believing the media then I'm happy to hear from them, and just as happy to apologise as any personal criticism wasn't intended. The media are not always wrong, but they do lay it on thick and are like a stuck record when it comes to troubles at LUFC or with Cellino. Nearly every article on Cellino starts off with, or eventually mentions Cellinos background and the problems he had with FL, they do the same with any little bit of trouble they can get their hands on about LUFC, they like to keep reminding people by stirring the pot. If you ever read articles on Leeds United TC, scroll down to the replies section and see how some other Leeds supporters reply to the article. You're a Millwall fan on a Leeds United forum, if I, or anyone else went on to the Millwall forum and attacked your club etc, would you or others be as respectfull as I was to your two posts?
Check out our forum mate - http://www.not606.com/forums/millwall.46/ You will notice that the 1st page has 20 threads and 16 of those 20 threads were started by a Leeds fan Now have a look through those posts and see how respectful we have been
