John Barnes says being black has damaged his career as a manager

What facts have you owned me with you numbut, I asked a couple of basic questions and agreed that America is full of people with racist attitudes, how do you then "own me with facts"

The only thing that has actually annoyed me is that some mentalist who is doing more harm than good to the cause thinks I am the one who is somehow dismissing racism.

 

I was born in Ireland, and no insult to the Irish flag or country would insult me. If someone said oh were all alcoholics, I would disagree because that is a stereoype of ALL irish people, though we do have 10 pubs on every street

 

Now you are insulting again, this is why I have lost my cool with other reds like Donga Dave and Frank, they resort to insults, and of course when I lose my cool over that, I am the one who is "abusive"

You threw the Obama being elected stuff at me, and I gave you Obama's own comments and it pissed you off, the fact you can't admit you are pissed at me for "insulting America" is pretty weak mate.

I could start throwing mud back but what os the point, you are totally pissed

 

I haven't denied anything, I just haven't decided before knowing the fact because I am not the prejudiced one.

keep up with the line of I am somehow defending america, people who know me will find it hilarious.

 

I am posting a fair few points, why are yo cherry picking, cos you are reading the line you want and discarding the rest.

 

Look, I can't help you, black person gets elected, white officials and police quit, yes they are all white. All happy when the white mayor was in office.

Now you are referring to your mates. Epic fail

 

Because you are posting so much shyte its hard to keep up in between the laughing

 

So, given everything, you resort to insulting me and claim I am posting "shyte".

If you can;t see the #fail in that I can;t help you mate.

You are really irked, the fact you cant admit it is weak, I am slightly irked but I am in control of my emotions.

 

Yep and because you are so prejudiced you totally ignore the possibility that its because she is a woman. Maybe you are also prejudiced against women?

 

Got to tell it how it is, Ok we will go back to earlier, how did you own me with facts?

 

So, officials in a state in the US, and Cops, who walk out of their jobs because a woman was elected, a southern state mind you, means I am sexist? I would be right to question your understanding of "sexism" and "context" but what is the point

The irony is I probably know more about your country than you do concerning politics policing racism eduation ect.

Yet your arrogance is astounding given said lack of knowledge.

Also,pretending to be laughing when you are mad as **** is pretty sad. The more you post the more I feel sorry for you.
You debate like those who post in the comment section of fox news articles, when it gets tough you start throwing insults and making spurious claims.

At this point it is probably fruitless to continue this discussion because your emotional state hinders your ability to debate anything though your anger keeps making you post replies that have nothing to do with the debate cos you want it to descend into a mud slinging match
FYI "you talk shyte" Great point. Totally owned me there.

Go have a smoke or a beer and chill out

I fail to see why this debate should be a bone of contention between us in future. I don't hold grudges. Feel free to say Ireland is a ****hole. or a racist country, and we can discuss the merit of that without me getting my knickers in a twist and slagging you off.

 

I'm just chuffed I managed to get through all of that without having another #meltdown

 

And you wonder why I say you are posting shyte? I'll give you a little bit seeing as you are so desperate to continue with your "i know more than you nonsense (why do you feel the need for this?). There have been plenty of threads on here and proper 606 where i have taken stick (mainly from tobes) about the fact that I am a LFC fan who lives on the wirral (as I told you earlier), this despite the fact I was born and spent my early years in liverpool. Therefore I am not American, do not like america and do not like lots of americans I have seen on tv or even met because of their racist attitudes.

So anyway, back to earlier again, how did you own me with facts?

 

Look mate, I have made it clear I have nothing against american people.

Is this worth continuing?

I am not reading this post because and only because I don't want to continue a pointless argument, I don't do point scoring, unless it's winding up mancs.

wtf is the point like, if you don't like me or my posts set me to ignore, otherwise lets forget it.

 

You can dodge if you want, people can see it anyway but how did you own me with facts?

 

urrghh now I am dodging. its lame when you offer an olive branch the other thinks they've won. Where is your dignity ffs

Can you not acept the original debate is left behind several posts ago when you started throwing personal insults.

 

If you want to assume I am dodging and you've won, fine, ok.


I was talking shyte.
can we leave it now, should I expect you will be trolling me in future like Donga does? Like Frank did?

 

I do see now that the stuff on the elections thread might have rubbed you up the wrong way. I understand that, it's nationalism. Any insult to the word America is an insult to you?. Believe it or not, that's just silly IF it is the case.

 

Out of curiousity Sisu, what makes you think they quite because she was black rather than she being a female? Until i heard terrifictoure (your name from now on), the picture you painted was that they definitely quit because a black mayor was taking over and i could believe it. Having heard that the mayor is a SHE, and in the 37 years before that it was a white male mayor, there could be more than the reason she is black. What is the compelling evidence that it is because she is black that makes you think this is related to racism?

 

So your need to think you somehow have knowledge that others dont is so compulsive that you have to convince yourself that you owned somebody with facts despite all the evidence, hey since when was evidence important to you.

But anyway back to the question that you dont like, when did you own me with facts?