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John Barnes says being black has damaged his career as a manager

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    Exactly, and that is why those who are same claiming the race card is played, are being ever so slightly racist, they have no idea if there is a problem yet they say he's playing the race card, cos Barnes is black.

    Us crackers don't play the "race card" it seems just non whites apparently.

    It IS that simple because if Barnes was white and claimed there was racism in football, he'd not be accused of using the "race card."
     
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    Perhaps Mr Barnes was not such a bad Celtic manager after all <laugh>
     
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    Sam Allardyce plays the race card a lot though it isn't usually descibed in those terms #allardici
     
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    Be glad Barnes you dont live in the US, they just beat another black guy do death, broke vertabrae in his back and smashed his voicebox, not charged with any crime, went in a coma in emergency sugery and died. He was arrested, and somehow his back and throat got smashed in a police van on the way to the station, one hour later he was brought to hospital and is dead. This only after racist cop Slager gunned down a 56 year old black man who was running away from him, 8 bullets in the back over a traffic stop for a broken tail light

    Open season on black people in America. Most racist country on earth.

    Just the arrest, last time he was seen alive, he was 100% healthy when the cops took him.
     
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    John Steward on Fox News racism and racism in the US. ****ing hilarious <laugh> Tho tragically true :mad:
     
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    Couple of questions
    1. Got any videos about white guys that ended up dead in US police custody, as plenty have so maybe rather than racists the cops over there are a bunch of violent thugs who will commit violence against people regardless of race.

    2. Do you have any evidence for your assertion that Slager is a racist rather than a totally incompetent cop who lost his bottle and temper resulting in an adrenaline fueled complete over reaction?

    As for America being the most racist country on earth, well seeing as the election of Obama was probably one of the most racist elections ever, then you could well be right.
     
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    Not my assertions, and to show that John Steward, one one of their film shoots had to employees go into a building to do some shooting of film, they dressed the white guy like "a homeless elf" with a 5 oclock shadow, and the black chap in a splendid suit, and he was truly angry when he said "guess which one was stopped" entering the building.

    You see, constant demonisation of black people killed. A cop is far morelikely to get away with killing a black person.

    Eric Garner
    Milton Hall


    Even Obama said these was an issue.

    I suggest you go look at the figures, in predomiantly white areas arrests are like 70% black people.

    Black peopple make up the majority of deaths and arrests in ares they are a minority in almost all states in the US. Don't believe me, go check it out. White people commit crime too you know.

    Did you miss this post?
    Police and city officials resign after Missouri town elects first black female mayor
    http://www.salon.com/2015/04/20/pol...issouri_town_elects_first_black_female_mayor/


    Racist much/

    Slager has been in compaints from 2 seperate black people for excessive force, coincidence, South Carolina police have not a great history.
    A previous victim of Slager Mario Givens
    Then he guns down a 56 year old black man who was no threat, 8 bullets in the back THEN plants a taser on his body
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    Do me a favour mate, John Stewart is white, and no idiot. You can feel his disgust at the racism in America, he's not a bleeding heart type.

    I could post a thousand instancs of polcie brutality and murder against blacks where cops faced NO CHARGED

    Watch this please and see the institutional racism for yourself.




    Your Obama reference is the poorest defence of rife racism in america I have ever heard, even Obama said it HIMSELF that there is a problem for black people in the US <doh>
     
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    Obama: Racism ‘deeply rooted’ in U.S
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/dec/7/obama-racism-deeply-rooted-in-us/

    Do you live in the US? if yes then how come you don't know this ****? Your argument was like something straight from Faux News. I hope you don't watch Fox News, it is the most racist news channel on earth, Fox News would be illegal in the UK because of anti racism and hate speech laws
     
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    Barnes is claiming discrimination, we don't live in a country that has a problem with whites being racially abused, so it's impossible for a white person to play the race card ffs.

    It's not 'slightly' racist to use the term either, in this case it's challenging the actual facts, as most of us believe he struggled to find work at the top end of the game post Celtic, as he was a ****ing ****e manager. Ergo for him to claim that his exclusion was due to his skin colour without an y evidence whether anecdotal or otherwise to back that up, he can rightly be accused of playing the race card in that circumstance.
     
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    Erm yes it was

    So that will be no to my question then?

    Chances are the race of the victim was the deciding factor in those two cases I asked you about but as usual you jump in full blooded and state categorically that is becasue they are racists in effect bringing us back to the topic of playing the race card.

     
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    So, you have ignored everything I posted and got into semantics?

    The report on the US justice system
    2013

    http://sentencingproject.org/doc/publications/rd_ICCPR Race and Justice Shadow Report.pdf
     
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    I now live on the Wirral but what has that got to do with you not answering my questions?
     
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    I give up <laugh> The US president says racism is deeply rooted in the US and it is my assertions that are the issue here.

    The stats back it up

    The slaughter of black man after black man by the police, the endless harrassment and arrests and brutality are not enough.

    If you were really interested in finding out if there was a racism problem you would go look yourself to either confirm or refute what I have said, arguing with me is pointless, go look.

    No, you come back with, what about the white people?

    I bet my bottom dollar this is a massively disproportionate amount of black people killed than white people by police in the US

    It aint just black people, homeless people and mentally ill people too
     
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    The most racist country in the World though?

    Errrrmmmmm, No
     
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    Deadly police shootings from 2010 to 2012 captured in the federal data show that blacks, age 15 to 19, were killed at a rate of 31.17 per million, while just 1.47 per million white males
     
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    "erm no" doesn't mean **** Tobes, you keep dong that nonsense, show me, with some evidence ffs

    You are so eager to disagree then offer nothing to back it up
     
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    Since when did asking about evidence become semantics?

    You can post all the stuff you want about most Americans having racist views we all know they do but that is a far cry from assuming somebody is a racist murderer just because he lives there and is white.

    we are now right back where people started discussing john barnes possibly harming race relations by playing the race card and here we now with you doing exactly the same thing.
     
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    I am nackng it up, you are off on a tanget mate, not looking for a silly argument with you. If you can show you have a point we can discuss than, I think that's fair enough,
     
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    I'll quite happily retract that statement if you can show it to be wrong, it's not a game and I am not the fountain of all knowledge I am willing to learn somethng new mate.

    I don't like to make wrong claims, who does?
     
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