Off Topic Werewolves

Fixed

Missed ACS's vote in amongst all the other panicked posts

Edit: It was ACS who voted for me. Funky (as far as I know) has not shown his manky hairy face yet today!

 

^^ ^^
Beelin'

 

There is one thing still confusing me Albert.

I am not confused about your wolf side, but I am starting to get confused about your human side. You are meant to turn back into human form during daylight hours, and yet here you are at lunchtime still chasing your tail!

 

I suggested Funky last night but nobody followed

 

Obsessed with Wolf body parts aren't you fella.
Do you lick your wolf plums on an evening whilst back with the pack

 

Time to declare.

I am the Doctor.

Reason I have declared is just so that all the facts and possible theories are in the open. For what it is worth I do believe Less Than is the Seer the reasons for such belief I will set out below.

It is possible that this is just one final set up by Fenrir Greyback (Less Than) and his crew of two. The reason I say that is the fact that 2 of those said to have been investigated are dead. Although no-one is going to miss Fat Boy's helpful input!! The third person said to have been investigated is Funky who is said to be wolf and likely for the chop tonight. The fourth person said to have been investigated is me.

The person the Doctor saved was me. I saved myself. Given the time in the game this occurred it is more than feasible that FG and his crew of two sussed that it was more likely than not that I as Doctor had saved myself. It was early in the game and would have had little chance to "read" anyone else as a Villager by that time. Also the chances that the Doctor had not been me and had "read" me and saved me at the same time as their deciding to kill me (1 in 8 or 9) was very unlikely. I have therefore believed that they would have guessed I was the Doctor when I was "saved".

To play Devil's Advocate Less Than could easily have decided to get out quickly today to claim the Seer role but is in fact part of the Werewolf team making a final play to finish the game. Of his investigations one is me who I think the Werewolves have guessed that I was the Doctor, two are dead and everyone knows who they were and Funky is up for the chop.

I would be interested as to what Funky says about being accused.

Reasons why I don't think it is the above:
1. The werewolves do not need to make this play. They were "in front" and more likely of the 2 teams to win
2. I had suspicions about Funky Pidgeon.co anyway
3. I had suspicions about ACS anyway
4. No-one else has stepped forward to claim Seership and the wolves, I think, would not know if the Seer had been killed or not. If not this could have caused a bigger argument about who was Seer and who was not and the werewolves didn't need to make this play.

 

****ing hell slow down lads As I catch up with one page another appears. My thoughts:

I believe MITO for sure. From day 1 I picked up on his "lowly" comment and referenced it twice. He simply could not have known what was in the villagers PM. I was unsure when he didn't pick up on it when I repeated it back but then he did point out he had and I just hadn't realised. So for me MITO is the one definite villager outside of myself.

The stuff about not receiving a PM started to throw me for him, Morgan, BobbyD and Nev. There were 4 of them claiming it though so it couldn't have been all wolves i.e. a tell. The wolves could of course have just latched onto that though to sidle up. I will need to check back who later acknowledged like MITO that they had indeed received a PM after claiming otherwise. However the mix up between the initial PM's and alleged ones after makes this evidence somewhat unreliable.

I am 80% sure on Morgan (despite the above). Before all the tomfoolery with tags started, that tag about Obi and Morgan appeared. Nev - Are you now claiming you put that tag up? This is pretty important.

No 'other' seer has come forward. I can't see what there is to lose for the 'other' seer to come forward? Either Nev/plus other wolves has played a blinder and realised the timing of what they have done to mix things up, or he is the seer. It is a shame that Nev had not investigated one other live player except Morgan and Funky. This is the only bit that concerns me about Nev's story about being the the seer timing wise - it just so happens that Obi/Biscan are dead, and the one player he has fingered alive is Morgan, who many of us had linked to Obi. MITO or myself would have been handy. The only other thing that bugs me a little is 4 rounds gone, and you haven't investigated me? After all that happened in the KGB game?

He is the seer or the seer is already dead, or its Funky or AFC. Those are the 4 options. Morgan, myself and MITO have all confessed to not being the seer by our actions/posts. BobbyD has been on, not said he is the seer. So unless he has some fear about being exposed, you'd have to assume he is not the seer.

No offence to Nev as I pretty much think he is the seer, but we do need to consider the ramifications of killing Funky and finding he is a villager. As long as it still leaves us in the ascendancy (which I'm struggling to work out), then surely it is best to kill Funky for nothing else than information if anything (and he's a whinging mackem ). Has Nev voted for Funky at any stage during this game? Who have Nev's votes been including changes? This could be the one way to trip up his story.

AFC is obviously a concern, and as interesting as his absence makes it, it really is white horse time if he is a villager.

 

I put the tags up about Obi and Morgan.

Once Obi died I included myself in the next day's tags (along with Biscan who I had investigated) as I was conscious that the timing of the game needed a known team of more than 2 villagers. I also thought that it might have had the effect of deflecting attention away from me and onto Biscan as being the Seer (sorry Biscan), as I knew that the wolves would know the tags to be true and that the logical thing to do would be to kill off known villagers.

I actually had you down as the doc and tried to tell you yesterday that I was the Seer by saying in the post about myself, Morgan and Biscan being villagers that it was 'as far as I can see'. Tenuous maybe, but I hoped you would pick up on it. I also trusted you as I believe you had made reference to trusting both myself and MITO with the use of 'moreorless' when talking about who you trusted.

I trust you 90% at the moment. The way you have played the game and the things you have said all point to you being pro-town. However, slippery bastard that you are that would also be the case if you were a wolf. The main reason for trusting you has been that each night there have been others I was more suspicious about. I do worry about you. If you are a wolf you have played the game brilliantly and we will lose as my strategy will give you time to kill off the right people.

Currently I know Funky is a wolf and I believe ACS and AFC are wolves. It makes no sense to me that Bobby would vote Funky straight up. But I could be wrong.

 

My calculation is that if Funky is a Villager then if the werewolves kill tonight then it is game over.

 

That is the case. We have to lynch a wolf today or we lose (unless the doc gets lucky).

Either the Seer is dead and I am lying, or Funky is the Seer but choosing not to come online on the day that is most important for the Seer to reveal himself (as stated by several people yesterday) and I am lying, or I am the Seer and telling the truth.

The question to ask yourselves is why would a wolf risk exposing themselves to the possibility of the real Seer still being alive when they already had the numerical advantage? I have dropped clues throughout my postings about being the seer - by suggesting that I had 'serious doubts' or serious suspicions' when i felt things were going in the wrong direction. I was also the one continually drawing people's attention to the tags (as was Obi to be fair on the first day).

Edit* by numerical advantage I am referring to kills not players, and the likelihood of another successful kill today.

 

read back to this

http://www.not606.com/threads/werewolves.296835/page-37#post-7827047

this is where rolando just said the vote is 3 v 3 and bobbyd turned in at 3pm and voted valley.

Around this time i also note:
we were discussing tags

Funky had been voted for by ACS each day but then some tags got delted but it was FUnky defending ACS saying how you know he deleted it.

There is a defence of ACS by Funky and a vote by Bobby for valley. Co-incidence?

Think on it then bobby is stright in with vote this morning early... If i were hidden wolf i'd vote on the guy 100% sure to go down

 

For me it is a question of accepting Less Than as the Seer

and

deciding who he investigates tonight and hopefully tomorrow night.

Those to investigate for me would be
1 ACS
2 AFC
3 Bobby

I believe MITO and the TGE are Villagers

which leaves

Funky - werewolf
Me - Villager/Doctor
Less Than Villager/Seer

 

Very persuasive, I have a nagging doubt this is payback for the KGB though

Would anyone else like to claim they put up the tag about Morgan-Obi. As with the seer story, unless someone claims othewise, Nev would be 99% seer. Unless the seer was killed early doors or the person who put the tag up is dead. Too many variables. We need confirmation on numbers. If Funky is a villager and lynched, can we lose tonight? If not then I say we kill Funky as we'll learn more via that route.

The only other doubt is you having me down as the doc, despite me revealing I was a "lowly" villager and picking up on MITO's reference straight away. Are you saying you just didn't pick up what the reference to the PM?

 

guys.... if the seer was dead.... surely we would have seen this in the kills. The lynches have poetic licence in them SURE and the wolves kills so peopel can't talk but obi wan was proved wrong. biscan didn't say much other than where he ended up up north.

My strong view is if we were going to lynch a seer the person would have stood up and shouted. IF the wolves killed one we'd know.

I'm sorry but the seer is dead line is a weak one.

possibilities:

1. tasty day one was seer, didn't get to talk... likelyhood? 1/13 shot!

2. Lynched tash? no word... again totally random

3. Obi wan killed... his info proved false and supposition. could he have got acs right but valley wrong? no i think it was opinion

4. Biscan killed. offered no clue. should have used it if he was.

5. Valley lynched said clealry he had nothing to offer last night

6. GTILF, didn't say what either... had a couple posts nothing saying i'm seer

7. final option. AFC is seer and just not playing. He is on as new showed and i looked at profile too. he was on lfc board on election thread at 8pm last night.

Therefore....

If there is no other seer option..... nobody lynched defended themsevles with a role. nobody killed by wolves used last message to tell us.

The simple answer is ACS is caught out in this attempt.

 

**** me you lot are elaborate!

Well it must be true. He wrote it in gold!

Few points on my defence

He's wrong, We all knew today there would be a 'seer' stepping up, even though there's a massive chance the seer is long dead. Convenient that the 'seer' had no 'answers' until last night too. Also convenient how the biggest talker and most elaborate tactioner on the board has believed this accusation without question and voted me instantly?

Obviously I'm suspicious of Nev with golden jackanory story, nailed on wolf now for me. But Mito has blown his cover. Always suspected him, he's far to quick to believe this without question. Also made a lot of noise yesterday about the seer coming forward and hey presto, someone steps forward. Blatant wolf plan this lads.

We know two of the wolves, one more to find. They've been taking the piss out of us all week and knew the odds are one would be lynched tonight as sooner or latter one will get caught. This is just them trying a new tact. If Mito isn't a wolf he's just gone from most thorough player to most gullible over night. Reeks to the high heavens this.

Any questions quiz away, lynch me tonight and it's game over you won't be able to fix this.

 

The werewolves wouldn't know who was and wasn't Seer. Therefore, why risk this play if they didn't have to as they were winning. They could easily have come up against a "real" Seer. Course they could always have been panicking on what the "real" Seer might have found out and AFC could be our "silent" Seer.

 

I believe the choice tonight is between AFC and Bobby. I think I have at least 2 nights of dreams guaranteed as you will protect me tonight but be killed yourself by the wolves (or will you...) and I will be killed the next night.

It is possible that ACS is innocent and blinded by self-preservation, but if this is the case then he should relax as I will NOT be investigating him tonight. He will NOT be voted to be lynched today and when Funky is lynched he will see that I am telling the truth. By tomorrow I may have the name of another wolf and only if I didn't would he need to worry about protecting himself. Unless he's a wolf of course and he will want to protect Funky.

Personally if I was Bobby and he was a wolf then knowing that both ACS and Funky were fingered (oo-er) and that the choice was seen as myself or AFC for the next vote I would br discrediting the Seer and not voting for Funky. That bit is just opinion though.

 

FFS not606 does my head sometimes, didn't tell me you guys had posted until i refreshed my page and found i had 3 pages to catch up on (funny enough was telling me about other threads). I am on throughout the day normally but yesterday as i said, i made a company problem and had to fix it (finding time to catch up in the ****ter).

As for the above, if you were a wolf this is the final day where its make and break and would make sense for the seer to reveal themselves and for the wolves to pretend to be the seer as the next kill will pretty much determine who wins. To reveal yourself first makes your story far more credible. With respect to the wolves targetting innocents, i understand the wolves already know who each other are right? by that deduction they know not to target themselves so anyone they kill will always be an innocent, not necessarily because of your tags that you put (although a plan to kill known innocents is better)

Having said that, i believe you based upon the following facts:
- Unless you and Morgan are in cohorts and both active and are both wolves and playing a blinder (looking very innocent) then the easy answer is you're innocent. you are both backing each other up
- Your post along with the link to your tags all stack up and doesn't have any holes which leads me to believe you
- You've made ACS look like a right mug and his responses have made him look well guilty

I am not the Seer p.s.

I reckon AFC is the 3rd wolf.

 

Now who's playing dumb on the rules? The seer can reveal himself on his death if he wants but doesn't have to. We can go the whole game and not find out until the end of game as you know full well.

@Rolando can confirm this rule.

So Mito has gone from pointing at me for not knowing rules yet he doesn't know them himself. How sus is that?

 

Afternoon you hairy bastard!