Off Topic Werewolves

The bottom line is we have a strong lead from Obi's death. Rolando has confirmed they were Obis words verbatim. I am with Morgan, if we lynch one and it is a wolf, then we lynch the other the following night. If lynch one and its not a wolf, then we rethink.

It does of course seem a bit unfair on Valley/ACS if Obi has just decided to have a punt from his deathbed I don't believe that would be the case though.

I am sticking with Valley as he was involved in the swap on the first round of voting and is now mentioned by Obi. If correct then ACS would be my next vote.

 

So are you saying that Obi is the Seer in your opinion and that this info is definite? I very strongly suspect that his words portrayed suspicions and not information. For this to be information then he would have to be the Seer and to have already known that one of them was a wolf from his vision the night before. Would a seer who knows a definite wolf risk voting for a villager (GLITF) ?

 

There is an interesting point here... there are now 3 voters still to come. AFC seems to be not in... Funky and valley are the guys who i expect to vote.

As there could be an odd number of votes there cannot be a tie with out a thrid option. The point is we MUST be careful at 8pm that one simple switch by wolves will kill two.

so:

1. Scenario that both are innocent. one wolves is selected to sacrifice himself to kill both. wolf lives will tomorrow in this scenario. Wolves vote to kill another person.

10 players now goes to 7. it would be 3 v 4 if everything goes the wolves way and they then have 2 hidden wolves.. we can ill one but then they can kill another the following night at it becomes 2 v 3. its a straight shoot out then. Town must kill wolf in lynch, wolf must kill town at night... etc.. Dr is key for and chance of town surviving.... the chances of a tie at any lynch become higher and higher

This means we bloody be careful tonight. we cannot allow a tie not knowing who is who. Therfore i'd like both ACS and alley to defend themselves now.

2. Scenario that one is guilty on is innocent.

(assume dr fials to protect)
If we kill the innocent its 3 v 5 tomorrow and we still are not sure if the other was innocent or not so we don't get further along. Seer become key and should know enough people to for a town team provided they don't die first

If we kil la wolf... great it would be 2 v 6 tomorrow, again seer must know a decent team. as long is it outnumbers wolves if it gets together it can hunt wolves.


If we kill both an innocent and a guilty... it would be 2 v 5 tomorrow. again. town may have seer to come out with at least a 3 man team which outnumbers wolves

3. both are wolves:

We have to either see wolves sacrifice themselves and hide the other or there is a vote for one. there deffo will not be a tie.

If we kill both its 1 v 6 tomorrow correct? that is a strong scenario from which the town can hunt down last wolf in a race.

If we kill one and find they are wolf then it's 2 v 6 tomorrow. still strong and we will prob kill the other the next day




The worst case for the town is that both are innocent. This is why i encourage both to try and defend themselves.my vote is on valley but its a suspicion based on obi, based on a link i saw day one and the tags don't add up to it necessarally. I'm sticking there but want to hear now.

 

life is unfair.

the game is not live til end. the game is find the wolves. if say the wolves kill me tonight... just saying... then i've tried my best to leave enough theories and as many facts as i cna find as well laid out for all.

The aim is to win as town for me not to live til end and lose.

So... if either is town they should speak up and make a case.

 

I agree that it is too risky for a tie based on only suspicions. This leaves us open to a double-loss. We have enough ways to gain clues from the vote even if we lynch a villager.

 

No.

I don't think Obi was necessarily the seer.

Indeed at this stage I don't think we can assume ACS or Valley is a wolf. They could both be innocent, both wolfs or it could be one or the other. Hence I still don't agree with split votes.

I say I would automatically vote ACS if Valley is a wolf based on Obi's comment. And vice versa. Particularly if the seer did not somehow or directly give information to us.

I would actually go along with your theory at present and hope the seer is alive and able to pass info on tomorrow. I believe the seer is someone else and has been passing information today as I have alluded to. Either that or they are a clever villager. However in the absence of him coming forward openly which would be a bad idea, I will act on Obi's word as a known villager.

 

you have seen a few more things than i did.

yes you are right that the tags are all on the acs side of this vote

yes you are right that Obi voted GLITF. if he was a seer though and only knew 3 people and these were the tags and inncoent then his vote as seer makes sense... you say as he knew if seer that the two he has named were wolves he should have voted on up there earlier and got us directed towards at least one.

 

interesting you say that.

I'm not the seer just you you all know.. i've said i'm a lowly villager all along.

 

I think that potentially we know far more as individuals than we do as a collective - for now.

If the tags are correct then we all know the names of 3 innocents. (Big If but its a possibility that is out there).

Any villager not on that list who believes the tags will then know 4 villagers.

The Seer (if still alive) will also know 4 villagers (unless the Seer is also on that list) and should find out another villager or wolf tonight.

The Doc could potentially know 5 villagers if they and the person they saved are not on that list or dead.

Even though we have lost 4 villagers already our position is not as bad as it may seem as we have collected the potential for a combined pot of knowledge that could give us a voting majority till the game end - but we're not quite there yet. We need the Seer to survive at least one more night and it would be a big help if we get lucky with the vote tonight.

 

Without any concrete input from either ACS or Valley I do get the impression that all we are doing is inspecting each other's navels and comparing fluff.

Assuming those who are active are able to be on at 7.30pm I would recommend we wait to hear from either ACS or both and then decide which ONE to vote for as a group.

I have currently voted ACS but am content to go with the group if it is felt Valley has given more "tells".

 

thats good, naval diving...

I vote

first one to offer us 1million dollars lives

 

Kill one of them, if guilty kill the other then we can't lose as we just sacrifice all the town bar a couple and wipe out the remaining wolfie

 

If I believe tags:

1. biscan, morgan are innocent and obi wan is dead innocent

2. I am obviously innocent in my mind.. you call can insert your name here

3. I don't know but i suspect things.

4. Obi wan accused 2 people ACS and Valley.

5. I have a list therefore of 6 names to aim at.... Nev, great escape, valley, bobbyd, ACS and AFC.


As obi wan was innocent his accusation is not blemished by wolf interference. that has to mean at least I take it as I think he thought this.

The tags on the other hand can be a wolf trick to get us to beleive one or two (IBWT and Morgan) are innocents specifically.

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Is there any way our current vote is driven by wolf tactic?

not obviously to my mind. We are bascially taking a dead innocents accusation and running with it. I added my own separate thoughts to my vote for valley....

If the tags are true my thoughts on valley MAY be flawed. If the tags are false then they double my suspicion. Therefore i say let it ride.

 

if we kill both over a couple days then yeah the best case is both wolves and both die meaning the wolves have too long to kill one per night while the town can build a known team of good guys out of info and so will find him in the end.

worst case is neither is wolf and then we have left the wolves to spilt up thier votes between two people who are not defneding themselves and we start again tomorrow.
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Again.. valley and ACS you need to speak up to help the town if you are innocent.

If tomorrow we find one innocent and the wolves kill another innocent I again say the seer needs to make a call. I could be dead then I don;t know so I'l keep saying it. When you have enough known people to form an open team the names left will be so short the wolves won't be able to hid but tomorrow is a key day for you.

 

Today's tag said that Biscan, Morgan and myself were innocent until ACS deleted it and replaced it with a load of tags about me being a wolf!!!. #justsaying

 

How do you know Albert deleted it?

 

Because it wasn't me - and as far as I'm aware it would need to be a mod from this board who deleted it. That leaves me, Obi and ACS. I know I didn't delete it but for others I am unlikely to delete a tag stating I am a villager and replace it with tags stating I am a wolf. Obi is dead and not in the game and is again unlikely to have deleted a tag he was openly supporting yesterday.

I will note your defence of ACS tho


Edit: That last line is not one I ever thought 'd say to Bri

 

Evening lads.

to answer some of the questions;

1- I'm innocent (but if I were a wolf I'd say that anyway I suppose)
2- Tags- Less than... I've added tags but not deleted... we have 5 mods of which you were one so I'm assuming you can see that. Also.. I think normal posters can delete tags (can someone verify this please by deleting one of the ones below?). if this is the case the 'field' just widened massively.
3- Tags- I tag a lot of threads all over the place, normally with vulgarity because I'm childish - lads.. seriously ignore tags as they are just a piss around and we are wasting too much time on them. Assume whatever is on them is false.. unless it's about the size of my dick.
4- Tags- Obi and people not in the game can tag ANY thread they wish (just saying).
5- Obi- he's a prankster on a few levels... this may all be just a bit of pud pulling by the little tink.

It's interesting to see activity levels so high with a few of the posters... again back to swaying opinion... and motives therein.

I'm gonna dwell on that and I may even switch my vote away from Valley as the night progresses (assuming I stop at the services on the way back).

What I'm mindful of is that I've already switched today based on me being swayed, opinion wise..one for me to think on as I need to think for myself.

My big concern is that our numbers are getting depleted and we have to get a wolfie tonight without fail.

Taking 2 villagers out is an option and to be honest I'm not 100% convinced Valley is a Wolf (90% tops).

 

Think you are wrong mate.
See my last post.
If another standard poster can delete or amend a tag by clicking 'edit tags' then I question why you are putting such obvious falsehoods out there to try to stitch me up?
Can someone try to delete or amend please.

 

I am basing it on the fact that each night Rolando has to ask one of us mods to delete the tags because he cannot. Something you're already aware of as it was you he asked one of the nights.

Unless we have different mod settings I cannot see who has added or deleted the tags.