Off Topic Great Britain General Election May 7th 2015.

Oh... and finally a serious reply.

Not really election related but replace house of Lords with a sortocraticly selected body.

(Sortocracy would be like a jury, randomly picked to be a cross section of the population as a whole)

 

Fair shout. Welcome to the board too buddy, we always like to see newbies

 

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Defence

When was the last time Britain was attacked?

defence actually means attack, because since WWII Britain has only been attacking other nations. It makes a mockery of the UN because attacking nations who have not attacked you is illegal under UN regulations.


Someone forgot to tell US puppet Ban Ki Moon though...

 

Better be prepared than sorry. All these militants exporting their belief(s ) overseas have to be watched

 

Depends what constitutes an attack. Been a number of terroist attacks against the UK. Also attacks on UK interests overseas. Theres also been suggestions of possible attacks of UK territory.

Plus with no defence in place, then the liklihood of an attack in conventional military form, increases.

Once again though, what has any of this got to do woth a paranoid flute from Ireland, living in Finland? Shouldn't you be more concerned about Finnish politics?

 

You are not getting my point.

The cost of defending your nation is substancially less than the cost of requirements for attacking other nations.

If I am not mistaken, 7\7 was carried out by Britons, not millitants. Lockerbie was 100% the CIA. Even Channel 4 rana documentary showing as such, and the US DOJ paid the witness (and his brother to keep him steady) in malta $4 million and yet he still recanted that testimony, and that information was going to come out in Al MAgrahi's appeal, and THAT is why he was relased before the appeal not for humanitarian reasons because why be humanitarian with a guy who supposedly blew up a plain full of people? Also the Channel 4 doc showed that the CIA rented a building across from the libyan embassy when that polcie woman was shot outside the embassy. These are all facts by the way that can be easily confirmed.

No one likes to mention that Gaddafi who tortured people.. did much of that for the CIA and MI6.. important bit to leave out isn't it.

I guess Britons who don't know the history of the middle east can't undestand why they hate the US and UK, well, it's because those nations have been sacking, pillaging, and regime changing in that area of the world for over 100 years.

So kids grow with with tales of how their ancestors were killed because of such imperialism and then they grow into adults and see America and it;s allies smashing the region again. So the imperial nations create vast amounts of hate and then along come militants who tap into that hatred.

If it was vice versa and middle eastern nations was bombing regime changing and invading the UK for a 100 years, the exact same thing would be happening in the UK. It doesn't take a genius to work that out. Instead everyone is ****ing fooled into belieivng it is about Islam, and not imperialism and death brought to those peoples.

If you are surrounded by violence and death and grow up with it, then your religion will be violent.

 

As an Irishman living out of a tree in Finland, it is a mystery that British politics are of such concern to him.

 

Then why wasn't Ireland invaded? Oh yeah, we've no oil. There was 0 alqaeda in Iraq you idiot, even the biggest fool knows that and Saddam had never attacked Britain, in fact he attacked Iran with British and US supoort using British and German made gas chemical weapons


What terrorist attacks you dumb ass, 7\7 was British citizens.

 

Yes. These people who dont know about the middle east are very annoying. Especially the ones who think the UK and US did something that hasnt been done many times before, often by people from the middle east. The ones who think middle east history goes back only 100 years.

 

Evan Davis interviewing Cameron last night was good, he's going to be interviewing all the candidates so that should be good.

 

I provide facts, historical facts and you generalise an offer nothing and you are the epitome of a historically ignorant person.

Britain has been dropping bombs on that region since the 1900s/ Dropping bombs on villages killing babies women children, using chemical weapons ect.

You are totally ignorant of your own history

 

We didnt need to invade ireland, though troops were sent to the island. More as a policing force than a military one. Ireland hadnt just backed terrorists in killing almost 4000 people and nor had it used chemical weapons against its own people. Veey different situations.

And who said they werent British?

I don't agree with the wars in Iraq or Afgan but they were the unfortunate repercussions of the events at the time.

 

The IRA disbanded when? There were no troops in the rep of Ireland for a long long time before the IRA quit

So tell me who in Iraq backed killing 4000 people? I really want to hear this

 

Might I add, Charles haughey, did support the IRA and he was IRish PM. There's another little bit of truth and fact for you UIR, his own yaght was smuggling weapons

 

UIR there were 0 yes 0 militants and terrorist groups in Iraq prior to 2003, none whatsoever. Saddam would have crushed anything like that and Saddam was never a threat to Britain, being an ally until the gulf war.

How little you know.

 

Again. You havent grasped the point.

I dont disagree with you that for a 100 years or so, the UK and US have caused misery in the middle east (done some good too).

It goes back much further than just 100 years though. Some of the worst culprets were middle eastern.

 

The problem in the Northern Ireland was more of religion than politics. Religion is causing more problems in this world than politics.

 

Are you intentionally dim or do you enjoy living up to your native stereo type?

Iraq murdered its own people using Chemical weapons. An excuse for war, no, a potentially different kind of enemy to Irish terrorists? Yes.