Off Topic Political Debate

Thankfully England is an overwhelmingly Conservative country. When the SNP start their sectarian troublemaking in the next parliament it will push England further to the right.

 

'Overwhelmingly Conservative` This is why they only have about 90,000 members left compared to 2 million in the 1960s - with an average age of just over 70. In contrast both the SNP and the Green Party have doubled their membership over the last couple of years. It would be more appropriate to say that England is overwhelmingly non political - with the lowest party membership in Europe.

 

Oh dear oh dear oh dear. Quite how you can criticise others for not debating sensibly when you come out with stuff like this is totally beyond me. Pray tell, how is the SNP sectarian?

 

Because they attach importance to perceived differences within the UK on a regional basis.

 

I am somewhat bemused by the party manifesto lauches, where all the parties have allowed themselves to be drawn onto defensive positions. None have managed to get the rump of their ideas out without someone asking how their stuff will be paid for. Sure it is not beyond the wit of any of these politicians to come up with a "this is the plan, we think it will cost this much and we'll get the money from here" type statement.

 

But Zen, that would require a degree of honesty!

 

Odd post this. I thought Sectarian implied a religious issue but am not aware the SNP are a "sect". As for England being overwhemingly Conservative you are probably correct that the Tories are generally ahead of Labour in votes in England alone and if you look at a map it shows mostly blue because the shires are Liberal or Tory but the concentration of Labour support is in big cities which look small on a map but have vastly more people for their size.

 

I see Ed Miliband as your next prime minister. This is because the Labour group with the SNP, green and all the other small political groups together will win only just sufficient seats to stop the Conservative, UKIP and the protestant Northern Irish Unionist parties. A government of anyone but the Conservatives.

Can someone explain to me how the Conservative government is spending much more money than the last Labour government and are stil called the mean cutting party?

 

They spend it on themselves and their friends - not on public services.

 

I think it is mostly about perception Ak. For example although the Conservatives have pumped money into the NHS they get no credit as most people believe they do not really mean it. The Tories heart is not with "ordinary people" so whatever they say or do most of us believe they care far more for the rich and only help the "poor" when they have to or to attract votes.

 

It does not have to have a religious meaning.

Last parliament 294 Conservative MP's, 191 Labour MP's - quite a difference. If the Conservatives are elected with a majority they will correct the unfair constituency boundaries which will give them another 20 MP's.

 

Most of us believe the Conservatives in England which is why they are the largest party by far. The stereo type "Daily Mirror' view is handy to bring out but has no basis in reality.

 

Mainly down to the fact that the BBC is blatantly biased towards Labour and the Left!

 

If not religious then at least concerning a "sect" so what sect do you mean the SNP represent? Did you mean nationalism rather than sectarianism?
Never mind seats gained as that is not necessarily representative. Seems to me 39.5% voted Tory. 9.9m as opposed to 7.0m Labour and 6.1m LibDem. Not even a Tory majority let alone "overwhelming"- just ahead of the others

 

Agreed, but the Conservative would have cut spending much more but were prevented by the Lib Dems who did not possess the courage to govern properly.

 

Absolute bs.

More male cow excrement.

 

May I remind you that our democratic system is not PR but first past the post. The number of MP's is the only thing that matters.

 

True - it covers bigotry, discrimination, hatred in many walks of life. As in tory hatred of the unemployed, tory discrimination against the disabled, tory discrimination against the poor, tory discrimination against the sick, tory bigotry against smaller countries - none of which are evident in the SNP...

 

You have a real inability to debate like a grown up.

 

For God's sake go back to school and learn something!