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Discussion in 'Liverpool' started by LuisDiazgamechanger, Apr 5, 2015.

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Who is going to finish fith??

Poll closed May 15, 2015.
  1. Liverpool?

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    46.2%
  2. Tottenham?

    1 vote(s)
    7.7%
  3. Southampton

    6 vote(s)
    46.2%
  4. Who is going to come fifth

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  1. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    Most evenly matched league though, unlike elsewhere in europe where one or two teams excel and everyone else gets scraps.
     
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  2. LuisDiazgamechanger

    LuisDiazgamechanger Dribbles

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    Manchester city may not finish in the top four now.<ok>
     
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  3. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    It is I agree as the money is shared out so every time can have a few players

    However that doesn't mean that overal the quality is high.

    Sadly the thing is the clubs who have easy leagues have hoovered up every player going (bayern, real, barca) and are in the stratosphere compared to city or even Chelsea

    The current state of the prem is quite low quality overall as teams cannot defend it makes it easy to get goals and so.... Well it's an issue when Monaco etc are beating our sides

    The very highest standards in Europe will be shown in the next round of cl
     
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  4. Jimmy Squarefoot

    Jimmy Squarefoot Well-Known Member

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    Yes, it's entertaining to the neutral but I'm talking about actual footballing ability.

    English teams are poor at defending and even worse tactically.
     
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  5. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    Yeah lad that'll be why in the last decade, of the 20 sides that competed in the final of the CL, 8 have been English, 3 from Italy, 4 from Germany and 5 Spain. We're shocking tactically and have no actual ability though................oh wait <doh>
     
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  6. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    Your club might be useless tactically but United arent. Were getting very good at it.
     
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  7. carlthejackal

    carlthejackal Well-Known Member

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    To be fair, the English sides were a bit unlucky and a tad naive. How did Arsenal get through? All they needed was to keep the score at 1-2 and not go for the draw in the last minute. Chelsea could have also gone through although they found PSG on good form. They could have easily goner through. City was unlucky to meet Barcelona but were naive. We have been too long away from it and were easily outclassed by fairly ordinary teams. Real would beat most teams.

    So it was a fine line between having 2 or zero in the last 8.
     
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  8. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    Individual team failings this season are one thing, but saying that we're tactically and technically far worse than other European leagues per se is a complete fallacy, which stands up to zero scrutiny, and that was my point.
     
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  9. LuisDiazgamechanger

    LuisDiazgamechanger Dribbles

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    There is hope !.

    please log in to view this image
     
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  10. Rubbersoul

    Rubbersoul Well-Known Member

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    Man City is a strange one, you think the players they have they would just wake up and start playing but they seem to have given up. They have West Ham next where anything other than a victory would leave them in serious trouble.

    If they didn't get into the top 4 it would ruin them imo.
     
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  11. BBFs Unpopular View

    BBFs Unpopular View Well-Known Member

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    The basic stats on who's won what titles and so on, La Liga has more of an even spread of titles since the PL came about. It would be even worse had RA and the Sheik not bought and pumped money into Chelsea and City respectively.

    Before RA and the Sheik, the PL was the most 1 horse race league out of the top leagues. Far worse than the two horse race La Liga was before Atletico won the the title.

    Ateltico won the title without a decline in Barca and Real, they were still strong sides capable of winning the PL hands down. La Liga is a 3 horse race atm. The PL has been a two horse race all season up till new years and has been a 1 horse race ever since.
     
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  12. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    Arsenal x3, Chelsea x3, City x2, Blackburn x1and United x 13

    Not sure of how many but in the same time.

    Barcelona, Real, Atletico, Deportivo* and Valencia.

    * not sure if DLC won it or finished second.

    Might have missed a la liga side tbh.
     
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  13. Tobes

    Tobes Warden Forum Moderator

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    Nope.
     
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  14. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    I think if you want to talk evenly spread its pointless to talk about 1990s which is a long time ago.

    the spread of titles over past.. i dunno 8 to 10 years?

    in last 10 its utd 5 chelsea 3, city 2.

    evenly matched? nah... its all about the money baby....

    sides with wonga and unlimited wonga at that have won it...
     
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  15. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    Those 5 were won with some pretty clever spending. Unlike the other two whos combined spend of 2billion just about matched us.
     
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    Since 1992 La Liga has had 5 winners.
    Barca 10
    Real 7
    Valencia 1
    Deportivo 2
    Atletico 2

    PL 5 winners
    United 13
    Blackburn 1
    Arsenal 3
    City 2
    Chelsea 3


    La Liga 1 team grabbed less than 50% titles,
    PL United well over 50% of the titles and La Liga didn't have RA and a Sheik come in and invest a few billion into two clubs, the only reason the PL has not been a one horse race for almost it's entire existence.

    So in short, you talk a load of ****e but I am happy to show that you do in fact talk bollocks.

    "Nope" <laugh>
     
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  17. UnitedinRed

    UnitedinRed Well-Known Member

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    So top two la liga sides have 17 while 2 PL sides have 16?

    Looks like you were wrong. As usual. <whistle>
     
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  18. astro

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    We broke Man City

    Since turning up at Anfield they have lost every away game they've played

    Their remaining ones are Spurs and Swansea
     
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  19. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    and over last 10 its barca 6, real 3, atletico 1... which makes atletico's win all the more impressive. they won it on the back of europa successes and 1/3.. yes 1/3 of the tv money

    LESSON. build, grow, work for each other, have utter faith in manager who is not a spoofer :bandit:

    I think perosnally the moeny is both leagues has just gorwn and grown and grown. those without have never been so far from every winning one.

    Atletico should give all hope. but they are not a small club either

    Blackbrun bought their way to the title. Arsenal built upon big money on bergkamps and sold anelka and bout vieira and petit on it... now they are big spenders...

    the fact is the titles follow the money.

    It is only when you go to last 5 years that you could say its "even" City 2, utd 2, cheslea 1.....

    it'd be barca 3, real 1, athletico 1 in spain

    Next year's favorites for the titel will be: Utd and chelsea... city will have to spend 200mil.... thats the way it is. Arsenal will be just short cos they'll only have 50-70mil or so to spend.
     
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  20. moreinjuredthanowen

    moreinjuredthanowen Mr Brightside

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    "even" sure..... can't admit your point was total **** so you are now twisting it to suit the facts you've been given.
     
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