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Our Captain... John O'Shea

Discussion in 'Sunderland' started by Disco down under, Apr 11, 2015.

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What to do with John O'Shea???

  1. Keep him as captain

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  2. Sell him/pay him off at the end of the season

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  3. Sack him now

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  1. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    Laying the blame at one person's feet isn't gonna solve anything to be fair.

    Dante of FC Bayern, along with his £50m counterpart and two CL winning full backs, were pulled apart at the world cup by Germany, their heads just dropped.

    The entire team had given up, which is usually the case when your team capitulates.

    I've not watched your game but I doubt it was all individual mistakes that led to a wave of goals.
     
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  2. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    That's our 3rd thrashing where our captian, who's the heart our defence has sank without a trace on going behind. They were all shocking yes but when our captain jumps ship and switches off as we capsize you know you've got major problems with leadership. He's the best defender we have but he ain't captain material. Shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a captains armband again, he's not up to the job of leading his back 4 let alone the team.
     
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  3. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    How comes Cattermole isn't captain mate?
     
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  4. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    If it's utter crap then tell me a few of his bad performances this season - then tell me a few of his good.

    Chances are you remember most of the bad but few of the good - same as everything in life - negative feedback once needs positive feedback in tenforld to make up for it (statistical fact in my line of work - similar in football)

    He has been instrumental in most of our clean sheets this season - but, on the other hand, he's also been to blame for a number of our losses - Saturday doesn't stand out on it's own by any means but he's not the weakest cog in that defensive wheel and, without him there, we'd have Vergini and Coates at centre half. <yikes>

    If that doesn;t scare the **** out of you then you're a tougher bloke than me!
     
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  5. Brian Storm

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    Because pdc stripped him of it while he was injured, then tried to sell him when he came back. JoS has been captain ever since. He doesn't open his gob mate. His head is always first to drop when we concede and fails to recover when ever he makes mistakes which is far too often. He's completely inadequate for the role. I think it's one of our biggest problems is on pitch leadership. Catt's needs the armband, he's even more vocal with it and his team mates respond. The responsibility was the making of Catts.
     
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  6. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    I love Cattermole - Bruce ****ed him up giving him the armband and not coaching him very well with it - O'Shea was correctly team captain when playing IMO - Catts leads the team when he's on the field even without the band. I think there's something psychological about having that lump wrapped around his arm and I like it as is ATM. - May be different now as his game has developed massively

    Let's be honest - there's only really those 2 and Larsson - which other player can demand the armband? No long servants other than those 2 and Fletcher - Wickham is a kid and certainly not captain material. Seb Larsson when he's back would be worthwhile giving the band to as he constantly talks - wlthough how the hell he hasn;t been booked more for it I don;t know!!!
     
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  7. Disco down under

    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    We need a complete new pair of centre backs mate and probably a spare. Others we have being crap isn't nearly good enough a reason to keep him.

    I don't deny that he's had good games, I couldn't. I do, however think he needs replacing by someone who can do what he does well without the countless screw ups and awful games.

    No point doing well in half our matches when he's awful in the other half.
     
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  8. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    I'd go with Johnson next season if he's managed to clear up his mess. Give the lad a big vote of confidence.
     
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  9. Tel (they/them)

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    JOS is probably completely drunk half the time as well, in fact, I'd say most of the time is closer to the truth.
     
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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Provided the mess is cleared up I think that's a brilliant idea.

    Local lad and he's our most effective player. He might go missing at times but he scores and creates goals.

    Perhaps he'll go missing less with the armband.
     
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  11. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    To be fair, it usually goes to the best player nowadays, rather than real leaders. Face it, if it was leaders who got the armband, ours would be Carrick long before Rooney got it.
     
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    Disco down under Well-Known Member

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    Rooney could lead a conga line.

    Unless is was made up of middle aged streetwalkers.

    And he led it from behind.
     
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  13. Tel (they/them)

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    He prefers them cold mate, right at the end of the sell by date, the real border-line meat.

    Just before they get zipped up and slung in the freezer, out comes Wazza's Wallet.
     
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    Totally agree with every word
     
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  15. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Oh, he's a drinker too then?
     
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  16. Tel (they/them)

    Tel (they/them) Sucky’s Bailiff

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    He's Irish.

    Do bears **** in the woods?
     
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  17. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    True
     
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  18. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    Polar bears don't.....
     
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  19. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    I don't know like, after they float onto the mainland starving and eat a dozen Scandinavians, I bet they love to drop a load in among the pine trees <laugh>
     
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  20. Tel (they/them)

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    John O'Shea ****s in the woods.
     
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