A player like Shneid isn't just going to accept being number 2, and with the form Coq is in, it would never make sense to drop him, maybe 1 game here, 1 game there, but nothing long term that would allow Shneid a consistent run of games, and as I said, he's not going to sign to a new team for back up, if he signs it will be for first team action. As for the combo between them both, even in that case, it will be very limited, and TBH I don't think we need to do that anymore, we used to play Arteta-Flam because we were so weak defensively from midfield, we needed both. But we are so much more stable there now, and Ramsey adds that additional stability there, and even Cazorla has shown he can do the job, so we don't even need to have to play 2 DMF's anymore.
Then we are failing to prepare. We need to push for that next level. We must bring in another to class DM. If not then it's going to be the same old story. (2 or 3 signings away blah blah). Enough of settling for almost.
We need to bring in a back up DMF, but Shneid ain't gonna settle for number 2, Shneid is not a back up DMF, he is a starting DMF. And then he will start moaning and breaking that team unity.
I think it's healthy to have another DM in our squad. Yes the Shnied won't want to play second fiddle but a strong squad and competition is important for us to take it to the next level. Bear in mind we are a big Euro side that is challenging on 4 fronts, the Coqs won't realistically play in every game, nor will he be free from injury or dips in form. Also, what's to say we can't play both in tandem? We have all sorts of possibilities.
Thank you. A87 is right. Having two world class players in the same position makes 0 sense. Morgan is not going to settle for 2nd place. I agree, it's good to have competition, hence why you slowly bleed in the youth talent. We've already seen what happens when world class players are benched or played out of position to accommodate another player (Cavani for PSG, Varane for Real and Pogba for Man Utd). They get unsettled and threaten to leave. It just doesn't make any sense to buy another world class player for the exact same position. You either buy a potential great or bring one through the youth system.
But Bielik is not ready. He's still learning his way around the clubs ethos. I don't think he'll be ready for the step up next year. How many games has he played with the U21s? Wasn't he injured for a bit as well?
But the question is are Coqs and Schlinders WC? You mentioned elite players, as good as the two players are playing, they aren't in the elite bracket of players. You've also forgotten the Wenger effect. I'll say it again, pinning all our hopes on a half a season player is not the right thing to do for a club the size of Arsenal. There is space in our squad for a player of Schlinders talents. He will add another dimension to our already good squad. PeterRick, you mention the Polish kid. He is still a kid and needs plenty of development before he can be considered for our first team. He might have got a chance in our more weaker squad days, but nowadays we have a more stronger squad.
Exactly. Unless he's some Rooney wonderkid, there is no way he is ready. Not only is he young and inexperienced, he also comes from a weaker league and would require a big step up.
Took the words straight out my mouth. I see Schneiderlin coming to us as a chance for him to take his game to another level. He's proven he is a solid consistent premier league performer. Playing to better quality with improve him. He's not world class just yet. Putting our hopes on Coquelin alone is irresponsible like I said.
I'm hoping Wenger brings in Schlinders or a similar player and reinforces that area. At the end of the day, whoever players at a consistently high level should play, end of. I'm happy that Cazorla and Coqs have shown their worth and cemented their positions. This is the way it should be
Let's not write him off before he kicks a ball for us. Coquelin was about to be released on a free without being given a decent run at things and we've all seen how that's turned out. Bielik was brought in because of his huge potential and we actually spent a hefty amount which would suggest there's real belief at the club. TBH I'd be surprised if he got more than one or two sub appearances next season but as Sign da Ting says he'll be one who gets gradually integrated into the team. In the mean time I can see us rotating Coquelin with Arteta, depending on the opposition. I know many don't rate Arteta but I always felt we looked far more organised than when he wasn't playing. I do really rate MS incidentally, but like others I worry about disrupting the new found squad harmony we have.
Which is why I suggested buying a player who has potential to be world class but who is also willing to earn their way into the XI. Morgan will expect to walk into the XI and who would blame him?
Nobody is writing him off, I'm just being realistic. He needs to go through the ranks and be carefully developed before being introduced to our first team. Let him learn from our senior players. But you make a point of Arteta, he will be rotated with Coqs so the DM spot will only be open to a top player and for Bielik, its a few years too soon.
And so if he does? It won't necessarily kill of Beilik as he's still very young and learning the ropes. All i'm saying is let him learn and if he's good enough, earn the spot. Wenger in the past was forced to play youngsters due to our financial constraints, that fortunately is over now. Wenger hasn't got long left and should have the best players available to him now. If that means bringing a player like Schlinders, then so be it.
If you're good enough, then you're good enough. I have no idea if he's ready to step straight into the team as I've never seen him play but he'll be 18 in the summer and have played in England for 8/9 months by then. Saints have shown this season that 18 isn't too young to make that step up if you have the ability.
