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Official NOT606 2015 Chinese GP Chat and Predictions

Discussion in 'Formula 1' started by JonnyBaws, Apr 9, 2015.

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Who's slow boat in China will prove to be the quickest?

  1. Hamilton San

    18 vote(s)
    69.2%
  2. Rosberg San

    5 vote(s)
    19.2%
  3. Vettel San

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Massa San

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Kimi San

    2 vote(s)
    7.7%
  6. Bottas San

    1 vote(s)
    3.8%
  7. Ricciardo San

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Verstappen San

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Alonso San

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Button San

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
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  1. Smithers

    Smithers Well-Known Member
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    You are quite irritating arn't you? Two different race tracks with different compounds - I fail to see what you feel you have either proved or are trying to prove. The Ferrari was the faster package last race and Merc was the faster package this race - it's quite simple really.....but feel free to keep singing your song.
     
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  2. u408379965

    u408379965 Well-Known Member

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    I wonder if he'd get as much vitriol as Vettel did for doing the same thing, and then booed at every grand prix for the next year...
     
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  3. Max Whiplash

    Max Whiplash Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure whether you mean Nico or Lewis here and anyway I presume you're talking about the incident when Seb was explicitly told not to overtake so I'm not sure it's a direct comparison. Plus, of course, it's all hypothetical.

    To be fair, all three drivers have had plenty of vitriol directed at them after they've behaved like dicks. Right now it looks like Nico is the only one of them who hasn't grown out of it or learned his lesson.
     
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  4. EternalMSC

    EternalMSC Well-Known Member

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    Nah they were just British chavs fed up with 3 years of Seb winning.

    In this case it's the whole F1 community confused as to why Nico can't challenge Lewis so early in the season.
     
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  5. Short&Shapeless

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    Long time lurker but a thought occurs to me today. Completely confused by the radio rule but...did Merc break the rules giving Hamilton target times in that context? Genuine question from a Ham fan
     
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  6. allsaintchris.

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    It's not because he is not allowed to challenge, he simply can't put up a challenge on his own. Trouble is when Nico tries to grow a pair, he does daft stuff like Monaco and Belgium.

    Lewis knows he has got him rattled today and looked very pleased with it!
     
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  7. allsaintchris.

    allsaintchris. Well-Known Member

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    No, that rule seemed to get quietly dropped over the winter.
     
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  8. dhel

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    I think Rosberg was trying something when he kept complaining about Hamilton's pace. Wasn't he trying to force his team to pit him first? So that Vettel wouldn't get the undercut and he could possibly get the jump on Hamilton in the pits? Didn't they pit him before Hamilton for the last stint? The shocking problem for him was that Hamilton had so much life left in his tyres that he was absolutely flying before he made his last stop and I think he was miles faster than everybody. Maybe Rosberg thought Hamilton's tyres were shot that's why he was running so slowly, but he didn't cater for the burst of speed from Hamilton during the few laps before the final pitstop. Mercedes needs to give Rosberg a special overtake button. He doesn't even try very hard. You can't just hope that everyone will pull up and let you by or somehow you will get a chance to grab the lead in the pits, you have to take your chances. I think his biggest fear was Vettel in his mirrors, because he knew he had no answer to his team mate. While Kimi I think was faster than Vettel today I too was a bit disappointed when I heard him crying to the team about getting slower cars out of the way...especially when he had problems passing the Mclaren...but it was funny anyway.
     
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  9. Smithers

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    As demonstrated by Lewis the pace in the car over a few laps was very quick, and Nico would know what the true pace or target pace should have been. Maybe Lewis was slightly conservative in that stint or maybe Ferrari were more aggressive which made the Merc's target pace too slow? I don't know which one it was, but either way Nico was the only one of the two who could have been exposed, so I understand his concern.

    The question is was it for effect or was it a valid point made that they could have cost themselves constructor points? Either way (as said in the related thread) Lewis was well within his rights to dictate the pace, and Rosberg didn't like it he should have cruised up to him for a potential undercut or overtaken - he did neither. This all comes down to what team orders are in place.
     
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  10. TopClass

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    Chinese GP in boring race shocker.

    There's nothing to really debate this week. The fastest car won the race and did so managing its tyres. The quicker of the two drivers won. A straightforward week.

    From an entertainment perspective, it is worrying that Rosberg has been dismissed with consumate ease this first 3 races. Hamilton looks a different level to him. Just a shame that some of the other top drivers can't challenge him and give us a real fight but hopefully in time Ferrari and Honda can bring that on a consistent basis.
     
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  11. dhel

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    I think it was Ferrari who was going quicker than Mercedes thought they would because I am sure they thought Ferrari was going to go longer on their tyres, but they blinked first and went more aggressive. When the team gave Hamilton a time to achieve he did that and had some in hand then when they give him another time he also did that and more so I don't think that should have been a problem I don't think. Really, Rosberg has to start making his own luck.
     
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  12. Big Ern

    Big Ern Lord, Master, Guru & Emperor

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    I'm not confused, it's because he doesn't really deserve to be there, if you played pass-the parcel with Rosberg the game would never finish
     
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  13. EternalMSC

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    I meant it as he doesn't have the capabilities to challenge. Not that he isn't allowed. :emoticon-0148-yes:
     
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  14. EternalMSC

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    Lets start a petition to get Mercedes to consider Hulkenberg.
     
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  15. allsaintchris.

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    Hulk's time has passed. has hardly shone last season over Perez and likewise this year.

    still does not have a podium in F1.
     
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  16. 51LV3R8RR04

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    What if this is all just an act, a double mind game by Rosberg and all part of his plan to stir **** in the media?

    Maybe he wants Lewis not to sign the new Mercedes contract, to help his cause of: 'you see I'm loyal to mercedes, he will leave the second he has challenge from another team or gets a bigger wage, back me to keep number 1 in team'

    Regardless this team fued helps only 1 person, Vettel. One touch next gp and Vettel will be leading the wdc with them only bringing vasts more performance in Spain to get even closer.

    At this stage Mercedes need to nip this in the bud as Ferrari might be a bigger problem in the long run in this season. There are even whispers that Vettel is already being backed by Ferrari after this gp so he can keep up with Lewis.
     
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  17. EternalMSC

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    How would you manage that in the teams he has been in?
    And of course you would lose passion racing for 10th every season.

    Perez is definately a poorer driver.
     
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  18. allsaintchris.

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    team mates have got podiums whereas he still hasn't.

    I just don't sit on the Hulkenburg is Great train. sorry.
     
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  19. Smithers

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    He's good but it's difficult to access how good without being in a decent car with a decent teammate. Either way, I think his time has come and gone and is more likely to forge a future career in Le Mans cars or GT racing.
     
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  20. TomTom94

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    I think Hulkenberg is comparable to Frentzen (and not just because they were both called the next Schumacher). Lots of hype, flashes of brilliance, hasn't yet had a chance in a good car and people are now starting to recognise partly why that is. For him to justify the hype he'd need to be beating Perez pretty handily week in week out and he isn't. Midfield driver, quick in the wet, but not "up there".
     
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