Match Day Thread Blackburn v Liverpool FA CUP

Never said Suarez didn't, just pointing out MITOs hypocrisy ,

 

The greatest attributes of Luis Saurez is that he's a team player though some time selfish. Whenever we
loses the ball he was always back to defend or win the ball back. That is what Mario Balotelli lacks.

 

I agree! Suarez epitomises the hunger, attitude, will to win, determination that is needed to win things, that is why he lifted those around him! Great player that inspires others to do better and work harder!

 

totally agree

To be frank on suarez if he had the attitude of some lesser morals.. and balotelli isn't even a good example.. sturrdige is... he would not be playing for barca and would not be considered world class

Suarez has 3 things going for him.

1. Attitude to work

2. Lethal understanding of how to win... he shoots early as possible, fires one in when it seems better to hold it on the gorunds that a keeper has lest time to prepare, dives like a ****er, cheats, winds peoepl up. he knows exactly how to get aeahd

3. some innate skills. like the nutmegs and some real skills to produce a moment of pure inspiration.

he lacks real pace though.... misses the target a lot too.

but overall when he's on song he's unplayable and thats why he's up there just below messi and ronaldo but alongside neymar etc.

 

I just also want to be clear... the stats we tracks last season showed lfc on track for 4th just about when suarez was upfront on his own... Suarez came to life when sturrdige returned from yet another injury and we went on an 11 match winning run that propelled a good season to alomost a great one. I think we'd have taken 4th with no sturrdige last year based on suarez alone...

but the 4-1-2-1-2 formation and sterling behind the two and coutinho at times in CM and henderson all contibuted not to mention 10 gerrard pens... from the front 3 flopping voer according the wums.

But flanagan is STILL average.

talk the local lad up all you want..

Stephen Darby was a ironed on kopite. he is now at bradford doing well enough, is ther captain at 26 years of age.. he is league 1 player.
Jay spearing is another lcal lad who'd run through walls.. hes at bolton and was sent on loan to blackburn so is championship also 26...

then theres mellor.. or linfield and the list goes on... They were all not good enough for this level at the top end of the prem. Flanagan is an average player, there is nothing at all wrong with saying he is average as its the hard truth.

Again I said he did nothing wrong. sure the contributed etc etc.. but its not yet got him a wee contract to see him over his injury has it? ther eis a reason why after a long injury the club hasn't just given him a new deal and i expect he will be put on month to month if he can get through preseason and I'd hope perhaps get a one year deal.

rodgers himself said not one club in the entire league approached lfc to take the lad on loan so yes by all means credit to him for working hard in training and ceasing the chance that came along with both hands when we had not much option and then making himself a option in rodgers eyes.

But.... not one club... that does speak volumes.

 

well.......

like i said sterling, henderosn gerrard, coutinho and especially sturrdige had a lot to do with harvesting poinsts too that turned a 4th place run to a title challenge. I think sure put suarez into arsneal team last year and they could well have won the title given the run they did have.... but hey....

 

Why is it that the only people that bring up the local issue are the ones that are issuing criticism

 

Darby? Mellor? Spearing? Not one of them were ever ear marked a future first team star, not one!

Nor is Flanno for that matter. He just deserves more respect than he gets. But for injury problems, he'd have played nearly every game this season IMO. Isn't a defenders job to defend the goal? You won't get a better FB than Flanno for stopping the opposition, he's just not great going forward. But of course, nowadays everyone wants a Roberto Carlos and Cafu at FB. **** defending! And that's coming from me that wants the team to attack, attack, attack

 

I am simply highlighting that if his name was jon flaninho you'd not be giving him a second look. Its cos he is a local lad that's worked and got a chance that you are OBSESSED with him.

Its unhealthy.. let it go for your own mental health!

 

finally if flanagan had been available the shcoking thought is rodgers would not have lucked into 3-4-3. Can would not have got a chance and LFc would be about 16th now cos we'd not score goals...

We are lucky he was injured... poor fella.

 

I think Manquillo is a victim of this, he's a far better defender than he is going forward. I've been surprised by him being dropped he should be in there instead of Johnson and I would like us to buy him, as he isn't going to cost that much and is a good strong defender.

 

The name doesn't make any difference to me but I see irony in what you say since if he was called Flaninho he be the best thing since sliced bread for most!

I'm far from obsessed with the lad. I mention him all the time yes, and yes I rate the lad but I also do it jokingly too. Or do you think I'm serious about playing him up front?

IMO though, if half our players had his heart, desire and passion for the club we wouldn't have struggled half as much this season. Even Mario would be a decent players then!!!

 

Agreed. I see Mankiller and Flanno in a very similar light, they are of a very similar standard in terms of ability, commitment and consistency IMO (I must have some sort of alliance to Madrid too )

 

We'd be better off with 2 full backs that can defend than what we have currently, I like a full back that can get forward and that has quality when in those areas but ultimately they have to be good defenders. (Ashley Cole, Azi, Bertrand - All Chelsea at one point) all of those highlighted were effective when forward but were always looking the other way.

 

you're obsessed

admit it, then get into the 12 step program for average player anonymous.

 

Reckon we'd be better off with a propoer striker me self.

Defense in 3-4-3 has done fine cos most sides oly have one forward and so most of the time the wide area can be defended by one cb with wide midfield

its attack thats let us down badly.

If we had 2 good full backs we prob would have stuck with 4-3-3 sure but we were not getting hammered by 3 and 4 we were not scoring.

Lets be fair here... ivanovic is a middling right full cos he's not that quick etc etc but he''s a top defender. Flanagan is nothing like him but If you look at opta ivanoivc starting position is the half way line! he offers most width on cheslea right side... just as an example.

Good defenders first... hmm maybe but they all must attack and provide overlap.

theres a reason i call the lad average... hell even arbeloa who was what i'd call a consistent defender and reasonable attacker would put the lad to shame and i'm not talking now as a senior pro who's got the experience i'm talking day one he arrived at anfield

Flanagan can have a good career being average if he gets over the injuries which are why after all rodgers isn't throwing any sort of contract at him.

final word........... he's not good enough. we can big him up all we like and in an ideal world if he were the one average player we had his work rate would carry him and it'd not be a problem but we are awash with average players so if we ever want to improve as a club we need less of this type and defending them to the hilt all the time and get better players! (yes a free local boy whos average s far far better than actually spending 10 mil on an average player to come in but thats the clubs fault not mine)

 

Obviously, but that wasn't the disscussion. Not replacing Suarez imo was still the huge mistake made last Summer.

 

I agree of course but we have to realistic, every club has average players including City and Chelsea. The difference is that they have above average players and world class players in and around them which in turn makes those average players better.

My opinion is that we have average players we also have above average players. We don't have world class players at this point we lost that with Suarez. We also have something a little different in that we have some young players that may step up into that world class or at least very, very good bracket.

As I've mentioned before this Summer should be about adding that quality, our average players will then look a hell of a lot better.

If we go about buying potential or trying to replace average players there wont be enough to get the quality in that we need, max 3 players all experienced is what we need.

 

Agreed although we could just stick Flanno up to

 

He was obsessed with Neymar too
Basket case.