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Uefa sets dangerous precedent

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  1. Tuckin

    Tuckin Well-Known Member

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    A bizarre story - Uefa has ordered part of a match to be replayed after a ref made a gigantic blunder...

    UEFA has risked plunging football into further refereeing confusion after ordering the last minutes of a match to be replayed because of a referee’s error.

    The European federation has decided the final seconds of a women’s Under-19 European Championship qualifier between England and Norway must be replayed Thursday, starting with a stoppage-time penalty and a new referee.

    UEFA said its disciplinary committee has never before issued such a ruling.

    With Norway leading 2-1 on Saturday in Belfast, England scored from the penalty spot in the sixth minute of injury time but the goal was disallowed because an England player had encroached.

    However, German referee Marija Kurtes wrongly awarded a free kick to Norway instead of a penalty retake the the Football Association protested.

    UEFA regulations uphold protests in cases of “an obvious violation of a rule by the referee that had a decisive influence on the final result of the match.”

    Play will resume at 8.45pm in Belfast, after Norway and England play other group matches earlier Thursday.

    The retaken penalty could decide which team advances to the final tournament.


    http://keirradnedge.com/2015/04/09/...fa-so-last-minutes-of-match-must-be-replayed/
     
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  2. Amin Yapusi

    Amin Yapusi Well-Known Member

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    Must have been an English ref.
     
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  3. Erik

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    This isn't a 'dangerous precedent' at all. As far as I'm aware this option has always been available to FIFA. The issue isn't that the referee has made a mistake in awarding a foul, it's that he hasn't followed the Laws of the Game.

    For example, say the referee wrongly deems that a foul has been committed in the box. He gives a penalty, when in fact the particular offence he believed had occurred should have resulted in an indirect free-kick. FIFA could order the game to be replayed in such circumstances on the basis that the referee had not followed the Laws of the Game, as the punishment given was not in accordance with the rules, but not on the basis that the referee was wrong about a foul having been committed in the first place.
     
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  4. Chilton's Hundreds

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    No pressure on the penalty taker then. I take it they'll just warm up a bit then start with the penalty kick.

    Also do both teams have to play the same XI that was on the field at the time - what about injuries, suspensions, etc since that game if so ?
     
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  5. PLT

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    Mental. But as Erik says, sounds like it's a valid rule.

    Precedents don't seem to affect football anyway for some reason. How many teams have got away with resting their full first XI since Blackpool got punished for it in 2010?
     
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  6. Amin Yapusi

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    We've been getting away with it all season.
     
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    Makes you proud, doesn't it
     

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  8. originallambrettaman

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    The offence...

     
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  9. Happy Tiger

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    They're not seeing a precedent, they're simply following their own rules both on and off the pitch.

    Good too.

    If this happens in a PL or similar game, it would cause chaos. This might be the nudge they need to implement some type of video ref.
     
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  10. Sir Cheshire Ben

    Sir Cheshire Ben Well-Known Member

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    Watching that shows how ridiculous all the money & importance that is being thrown at women's football is.The only extra time involved should be spent in the kitchen & if you want to throw owt at them, throw them another pile of ironing.

    Seriously, that's a ****ing joke & it's been sponsored & spat out as international football. FFS they're even charging people to watch.
     
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    Remember the famous error by Mike Jones when a beach ball thrown on to the pitch at Sunderland v Liverpool deflected the ball into the net. Should have been a drop ball. Clearly not applying the laws of the game. By the same principle, should not the remaining minutes of the match have been replayed commencing with a drop ball?
     
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  12. RicardoHCAFC

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    I may as well mention it before someone else does. Aston Villa at the KC? Incorrectly awarded penalty where the decision was corrected by the video ref that shouldn't exist, but still saw a goal kick given instead of the corner we should have had.

    What happened when Tranmere had too many players on the pitch in a cup game? Did they just correct it at the next stoppage and play on or was there a rearrangement/replay ordered?
     
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  13. Amin Yapusi

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    I assume you're on about the Ashley Young handball, which he never touched, the shot hit the bar and went over. The ref gave the penalty and the linesman corrected him. No video ref and completely the right call was made.
     
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    It wasn't the linesman. It was someone near the tunnel. 4th official I think. Also Elmo's handball against Newcastle, that was the 4th official that gave it too.
     
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    Except for the header hitting and looping up off a player right next to ours before hitting the bar.
     
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  16. Amin Yapusi

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    I remember that incident clearly as I had a bit of a row with my villa supporting mate after the game. I was right behind it and it looked like Ashley Young jumped up with his fist up and deliberately pushed the ball over the bar. I didn't even hear the bar clattering. I remember seeing the highlights that clearly showed the ball wasn't touched at all and the Lino flagging for the goal kick, the fourth official had nowt to do with it.
     
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    "Hull thought they had won a penalty for a handball by Ashley Young in injury time but the decision was reversed.

    Referee Steve Bennett initially looked to have given a spot-kick but changed his mind after consulting with his assistant.

    It might have been a cruel blow for Hull, but replays showed the ball hit only the bar and not the player's hand after it had looped goalwards off Luke Young."


    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/7788523.stm

    You're right it wasn't a corner, but the fourth official wasn't involved.
     
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    It would've been a laugh if, after all that, she'd missed.
     
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