Off Topic Great Britain General Election May 7th 2015.

Someone said bedroom tax is great

Those with 20 bedrooms in their homes pay less % of tax than Gerrez

So what use is bedroom tax when 80bn to 100bn will be spend on nukes. Scratch that silly me, nukes are important, somebody is obviously thinking of the children

 

Ed Miliband’s approval rating sinks to all-time low

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The Labour leader’s approval rating has reached an all-time low – lower even than Nick Clegg’s
Following news last weekend that Ed Miliband’s approval rating had dropped to a 33-month low, YouGov’s latest survey for the Sunday Times finds the trend continuing, to its lowest ever score. Having sunken to -53 in January 2012, when Labour received criticism for adopting austerity measures and questions abounded over the future of its leadership, Ed Miliband’s rating has now dropped slightly below that level, to -55.
Nick Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister, now enjoys a nominally higher rating than his Labour rival, on -54. This could easily change next week, but it has happened only once before, during Ed Miliband’s previous all-time low on January 20, 2012 when Nick Clegg scored -50.

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Although only a small recovery, the Liberal Democrat leader’s approval rating is now 12 points better than its -65 low in May, after the party lost all but one of its 11 MEPs in the European Parliament election.
The Labour party's lead in voting intention is just one point in today’s poll. Their lead has shrank in recent weeks, and another YouGov poll has found they could lose around 30 of their Scottish MPs in the 2015 general election to the Scottish National Party.

 

Do you know how much tax Sir Gerrez pay year in year out?. Not fair

 

I don't need to know, all you need to know is that if you want to avoid paying almost literally no taxes, you need money to do it. Ergo the system is rigged

 

And Labour have been promising to soak the rich for decades.. how's that working out ?

People are like gold fish when when election time comes around, they look at policies not carried out by previous parties in previous terms and think hmmm that seems good, without remembering at all how those parties failed to push anything through and also forgotten how nothing has changed where it matters.

The proof of Labour being no different from Tory is one, **** economy and two, ever decreasing buying power of your wages.

What a man got paid for working an hour in 1920 had a lot more buying power than what you can buy now with an hour's pay. Isn't it supposed to be the opposite with all the advances. Nope, it just means we can do more work for even less money

 

And Bliar doing it would have shot himself in the foot with his multiple business dealings with the billionaires and in property in Central London...He is now one of the richest men in the UK.

 

Still getting paid as ex-prime minister.

 

You do know bedroom tax only applies to people in social housing right? How many people do you know that have a 20 bedroom council house?

If you have plenty of money, you don't need a council house! If you're on benefits to pay for the council house, why should you be able to get a house bigger than you need when hard workers paying their own way can't afford it?

 

Er, hardly.
I suppose it depends on how far down the list you consider qualifies someone as "one of the richest".

I've no desire to defend him, but if we're going to have a go it's a good idea to get the facts right.

 

is that so? Didn't know that, in Ireland it's across the board I think.
So apply a tax to a person who can't afford to buy a home because you gave them a home too big for them in the first place?
Logic and politics were never bedfellows.

Meanwhile the very people imposing the tax have all their own wealth in havens and exiles.

If the queen was to actually pay tax on ALL her earnings, I wonder how many people paying bedroom tax would make up what the queen avoids paying, I reckon she avoids many times over what is generated from bedroom tax and she's just one tax avoider.

It's hilarious, when you boil it down, Buckingham palace is full of immigrant tax avoiders

 

Blair would be way WAY down the list, truth be told, the richest people in the world are on no rich lists, I have read these "rich lists" and the richest people on the planet are nowhere to be found on them, why? because they are so obscenely wealthy it would not go down well plus it is pointing an arrow at where the real power lies in the world. Not governments, but wealthy families.

 

He is a multi millionaire. It was reported he had £100m but he denied it and said he had ONLY about £20m+. Although his assets in property alone was worth more than £25m+

I suppose he is very very rich but am I that wrong in saying he is one of the richest men in the uk ?

 

Trust me, Blair's worth has more than tripled or more since 2003.

These days he can earn a lot of money advising various dictators how to defend a civilian massacre

He also worked as advisor to Sisi the Egyption nut case who sentences 50 people to death in one trial.. this is someone you called PM and a reality check on what people think of politicians, everything I say about them and how things really are is 100% accurate.

Tony Blair gives Kazakhstan’s autocratic president tips on how to defend a massacre
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/pol...esident-tips-on-how-to-defend-a-massacre.html

 

How do we know who they are, then- or even that they exist?
In principle I agree with you- it's obviously wise for the really powerful and wealthy people to keep their status hidden from us plebs.
There are over 100 billionaires in the UK alone whose names are in the public domain and God knows how many more below them yet still above the (relatively) paltry level Blair enjoys.
He's no doubt filthy rich as far as we're concerned, but in the world of the super-rich he's a nobody.
Even David Beckham is worth more.

 

Ever heard of Kuhn Loebs, Warburgs, Lazards, Israel Moses Seifs?

Add them to the Rothschild (Osborne went to cambridge with one Nat Rothschild a huge bond holder in Glencore, the British corp mostly responsible for Sudan's tragic state) Goldman Sachs, Rockefellers, Lehmans.


Not the makings of rich lists are they yet they ar the money behind the central bank of England the fed reserve IMF World bank ect ect, no one has any idea how wealthy they are, but the queen, not even on the radar when talking the wealth these families own.

Blair is nothing but an errand boy for these people Saint, as is Cameron, like a roman provincial governor doing the emperors bidding in order for personal gain

 

This is why there will be war after war after war. Nothing brings in wealth like war. You get to sack the nation invaded, you get to sell weapons and loan money to both sides and you get to rebuild the country that got destroyed and then do it all over again.

Look at Ukraine.. perfect modern example, these banks are probably funding the rebels in Urkaine too, that's the sad thing.

The same banks that provided the money for the US military advanture in Vietnam, also funded the Russian factories making the weapons the VC were using.. as well as American tactical restrictions that ensured that war would last years longer than it should have.

There's a lot to be said for reading real history, not the garbage we are fed growing up

 

Question, when was the last time we seen an obscenely wealthy person in the media for a crime, and or went to prison?

 

You're ****ing wrong there so piss off .Anyone in rented accommodation pays the bedroom tax it's just that those renting privately have paid it for a few years now.The tories argument for introducing the bedroom tax for those in social housing was that as those private accommodation had to pay it then so should those in social accommodation.Do some ****ing research before posting such utter ****e you twat

 

The home wouldn't have been too big when they got it, they may have had family that's moved on for example. They aren't forced out of the home either, they have the option to pay said tax. If they can't afford it then they move or get a job to pay for it. Obviously, not everyone can get a job though hence me saying other considerations were / are needed too.

Don't get me started on the royal family

 

Did you see the story in the media about the bloke worth £60 million who had paid no tax for over 20 years ?
He was just told to payback what he owed.Can you imagine what would have happened to someone who had been fiddling benefits for 20 years ?