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Thanks but no thanks Ricky

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  1. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    He's been a massive disappointment for us, I had high hopes for the lad especially after his goal against Fulham:-


    RICKY ALVAREZ is unlikely to play again this season, with injury ruling him out of Sunderland’s survival bid.Alvarez has been plagued by a troublesome knee injury throughout his time at Sunderland, with the on-loan Inter Milan midfielder sidelined for two months in the autumn with the problem.

    Sunderland had hoped they had identified the source of the injury at the turn of the year and envisaged that Alvarez would play a key role during the second half of the season.

    But Alvarez – who has started just FIVE Premier League games in red and white – has continued to suffer pain and is now expected to miss the final seven outings, as Sunderland look to secure their Premier League status.

    The final blow appears to have been Gus Poyet’s last game against Aston Villa, when Alvarez was substituted at half-time, with the 26-year-old not involved in Dick Advoaat’s first two matches in charge of Sunderland.

    Head coach Advocaat confirmed to the Echo: “He’s very much injured.

    “I’m not sure what’s going on, but it’s not positive.

    “I don’t think we’ll see him again this season.”

    The loss of Alvarez – who has blown hot and cold during his loan spell – is not the setback it perhaps could have been, with fellow winger Adam Johnson now back in the fold and Advocaat successfully deploying strikers Connor Wickham, Steven Fletcher and Jermain Defoe together so far during his reign.

    Will Buckley is also fit again after more than two months out through a knee problem, with Advocaat pleased by the former Brighton wideman’s run-out in the Under-21s’ 3-2 win over Southampton on Monday afternoon.

    However, Alvarez’s latest injury set-back will raise fresh questions over whether he will be seen again in a Sunderland shirt.

    There continue to be reports in Italy that there is a clause in Alvarez’s loan deal forcing Sunderland to sign him in an £8million deal at the end of the season, if they are still in the Premier League.

    Poyet had distanced the club from those claims when he was still in charge, yet Inter appear to be banking on their summer transfer budget being boosted by Alvarez’s sale.
     
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  2. ROBOJOHN

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    Think that,s probably best way to go, shame though because he looked like he would have been the real thing if he could have had an extended run
     
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  3. Brian Storm

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    ****! Unfortunate, never been particularly injury prone following his game on game career stats, no more than the average player anyway. So unlucky as he looks talented, never got a fully fit run in the team, never got a fit run in the team for that matter.

    He hasn't disappointed me. He hasn't had the chance.
     
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  4. DAPARKERSAFC

    DAPARKERSAFC Well-Known Member

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    No chance in hell I'd buy him.

    I'd also be looking to move Giaccherini, Graham and maybe Fletcher on.

    Providing we stay up we can't make the same mistake as last summer with player recruitment.

    Need quality proven players.
     
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  5. marcusblackcat

    marcusblackcat SAFC Sheriff Forum Moderator

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    According to the daily fail we've got to buy him for £9.5m if we stay up!!

    I'm gutted. Much like @Funky Dick i wanted him to get game time as he looked every bit a quality player at times. Just never stayed fit
     
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  6. jdsafc

    jdsafc Well-Known Member

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    IIRC from what I read at the time we brought him in.........the standard European loan comes with a compulsory purchase at the end, but we arranged a European loan that did not have that clause
     
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    This.

    It's either one or the other. I've never known a loan deal to also have conditions about a compulsory signing depending on if a certain team has been relegated or not.
     
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  8. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Not it doesn't, it has to have an arranged fee which is compulsory on all European Loans. This only comes into play should we choose to purchase. There's no way we're forced to buy him. The Sections of the media have got it wrong.
     
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    jdsafc Well-Known Member

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    So we are locked in to a financial value if we decide to proceed, rather than being locked in to the deal itself?
     
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  10. Brian Storm

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    I do believe so, can't know for sure. But the former is written into every international loan deal, it's pointless too as teams sending out players for development with no intention to sell(Alonso with us is a great example) put an unrealistic future fee on the deals, a loophole which null and voids the whole stupid rule. The latter however appears to be unprecedented. I've searched and searched and never been able to find any evidence of any forced buy ever taking place.
     
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  11. jdsafc

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    I know when we loaned Cisse from Marseille that there was a fee agreed at the start of the loan of (I think) £11m
    We paid a £2m loan fee which was agreed should be netted off against the £11m
    At the end of the loan we decided not to proceed.
    So that stacks with what you are saying
     
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  12. Brian Storm

    Brian Storm Well-Known Member

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    Gyan had a future fee too, part of which was included in the initial loan fee
     
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  13. Vincemac

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    Well I've said this before.im lead to believe the deal was,he was on loan all season and we keep him if we stay up.????????<bubbly>
     
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  14. Teessidemackem

    Teessidemackem Well-Known Member

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    I hope not for the kind of money being mentioned. It'd be like paying for a high class prostitute and then realising it's a bloke !
     
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  15. Commachio

    Commachio Rambo 2021

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    wrong player, wrong team.. it happens, just like scocco or whatever the fuuk he was called.
     
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