I agree, Miliband is ****ing idiot, but I genuinely believe the other is the devil himself. Maggie was just the prototype
Well i'm 100% Conservative all the way. Voted for them since Thatcher was in charge. There is a cycle where Labour are in power and crash the economy and the Conservatives take over and sort it aka 1979 and 2010. There is a common myth that Labour are pro NHS etc blahdy bla but Labour just threw money at it without improving it. Everybody knows the Conservatives are best with the economy and that's a fact. Miliband is weak and the only way he can form a government is ay being propped up by the SNP who incidentally want to break up the UK! I admit i'm in the minority in the north east of England but i have a mind of my own. Mo grandad worked on the ship yards etc but that doesn't mean i have to vote Labour. Btw in the 13 years the so called working class party was in power the gap between the rich and poor widened!
You seem to know your onions about this, I'm learning so will be really interested in seeing other posters replies to this
, that's the one... I'm undecided about my vote mate. I might actually just watch these battle it out and base my decision on that
If a monkey wore a red rosette in the north east of england people would vote for it. All you ever here is the Conservatives are pro rich etc which is bollocks but Labour persecute the rich which causes the brain drain. The wealthy create jobs so dont punish them for being successful! The Conservatives are trying to put an end to slackers who claim benefits but are fit to work in some form.
I emailed all of the MP's through 38 degrees to which I am a member for their stance on NHS privatisation, everyone replied barring the local Tory ****. The labour voice, an ex female nurse was good but this did shock me. It's a bit long-winded but read the links, it's our UKIP candidate.. Dear York Central Constituent Thank you for writing to me regarding your concerns about NHS privatisation and the potential threat due to the TTIP treaty. I apologise for the delay in responding to your email but I hope you can appreciate that I am really busy with many campaign issues as we approach the General Election. Firstly, let us not forget that it was the Labour Party (the self-proclaimed saviour and protector of our NHS) who first introduced partial privatisation during their last term in government. When they left office in 2010 almost 5% of services had been contracted out to private companies. Even worse was their ineptly negotiated Private Finance Initiative (PFI) using Hedge Fund finance and now burdening the NHS with a ridiculous £300 billion of debt liability. Absolutely disgraceful. The current Conservative government have continued to introduce privatisation of NHS services roughly at the same rate as did Labour such that we now stand @ 8% of services being conducted by the private sector. UKIP has issued our policy on the NHS for ensuring that it remains free at the point of use and protected via additional funding. Please take a few minutes to read the policy outline at: http://www.ukip.org/ukip_launch_nhs_policy Leaving the EU would save the UK many billions of pounds that could be better spent here at home on our Health Service and other public services. In our health policy we have committed to an additional £3 billion per year which we would be able to fund via the savings made rather than via increased taxation or budget cuts elsewhere ..... which is the policy of the other parties. With regard to the TTIP Treaty: at present I can't tell you how I will vote because I haven't seen what it says yet ..... and neither has anyone else outside the EU Commission. Like many other matters in the EU, the Commission is undertaking the TTIP negotiations in utmost secrecy. Accordingly, I am somewhat surprised that so many people can take such a strong and emotive position without access to the full facts.But be assured, I (and my party) will make a decision in Britain's best interests when I know what the agreement is all about and provided that I can be reassured on protection for the NHS and the ISDS issue. Unfortunately, the EU Commission is extremely autocratic and may choose not to make special amendments to exclude our NHS from the agreement .... that remains to be seen. By the way, I will not be voting on this matter anytime "soon". It will probably be years rather than months before we have a text to vote on ...... and it’s possible that we may never have an agreed text. But if you are truly serious about ensuring against any partial privatisation of our NHS by the back door via an imminent EU/US TTIP Treaty, then the absolutely best way to proceed is for us to leave the EU completely at which point we can negotiate our own trade agreement with the US. See the following independent article which clearly illustrate the concerns: http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/2013/12/how-eu-making-nhs-privatisation-permanent If you wish to see what UKIP MEPs have been doing to oppose this treaty then click on the following link: http://www.ukipmeps.org/index.php?page=search ........ enter TTIP in the search box and then click on ‘search’ I hope this communication has assured you that UKIP opposes NHS privatisation and that it has provided you with some useful information on which to base your vote at the May election. Please do not believe all the untruthful misrepresentations being levelled by the mainstream parties and the national press against UKIP of late .... it’s simply a reflection of the fact that we are taking so many voters away from them due to their failure to fulfil promises made before previous elections. And also the fact that increasing numbers of voters see the common sense in our policies. Please take a few more minutes to read through a brief outline of our policies at: http://www.ukip.org/policies_for_people Here in York, UKIP won the European elections last May (as we also did nationally) and we have seen increasing support for our policies since then right across the UK. With your support we can win the York Central Constituency from Labour and help towards changing national politics forever. Best regards Ken Guest
Some of the money Labour threw at it opened a unit which saved my life so i'll disagree from first hand experience there fella.
What I've learned today... Blair lied about tuition fees for the election Labour started privatisation of the NHS Conservatives steal your money Cameron went back on his word over things he promised before elected UKIP seem to be concerned on one policy only which makes me feel they aren't ready yet. Diddles predictor said I'm Lib Dem It's starting to look like they all talk **** to get your vote? Over promise, under deliver. Nothing worse.
QUOTE="Funky Dick, post: 7786850, member: 1023141"]Some of the money Labour threw at it opened a unit which saved my life so i'll disagree from first hand experience there fella.[/QUOTE] Understandable mate. I was talking in general though. It saved yr life so not surprised you are passionate about it. The NHS is a vital part of our lives and tbh no matter who is in power there isn't enough money to fund it and eventually i can envisage an american style private med care being implemented.
I came up two thirds Green, one third Labour. Though as I'm 52 and I've voted Labour in every election, warts and all (and there are plenty or warts!), I think it shows how crap Labour have become and how they accept Tory economic policy more than any change in me over the years (sorry RAW!) Glad to see nothing came up for UKIP or the Tories. I'd rather shag John Carver than vote Tory. Well maybe not. But you get my drift!
Never have I read such utter ****e..Thatcher destroyed our industrial heritage and had the largest unemployment figures of modern times..Tony Blair Sorted broken Britain out and resided over the fairest and most prosperous society in my life time..Labour took the blame for the global banking crisis that crippled many western economies, none more so than ours who are/were very reliant on this..The Tories have came back to power and made everybody but the rich pay for this...Real earnings have soared for the rich while have dropped for everyone else..
Well, I'm not very committed to any political party, but to say Thatcher "destroyed our industrial heritage" is just historically incorrect. British Steel was losing £1m per minute, £60m per hour, £1440m per day - industrial heritage? The Middlesbrough iron and steel industry was opened on the strength of North Yorkshire iron deposits, but we were importing better and cheaper ore from Spain and Sweden by the 1880s. Iron and steel was finished in this country long before Thatcher. She just put a ridiculous loss-maker out of its misery. British Coal? Is that the heritage that meant it was cheaper to buy the stuff from Germany than dig it out of the ground? Joe Gormley and Arthur Scargill killed the British coal industry by pricing us off the market. Ship-building? Sunderland was shafted by the E.U. quota system, and Panorama did an hour long expose of it. In the end, the E.U. held their hands up to it, and offered Sunderland the option of a large grant to attract new industry - like Nissan - or resume making ships. Sunderland Town Council (as was) made the decision to take the grant. I could point out the embarrassing fact that the Council was Labour led, but I won't because I do believe it was the right decision anyway. The fact is the world wants big refrigerated ships these days, and you cannot build something akin to a super-tanker on a river as narrow as the Wear. It had no long-term future, so the Council took the grant. Come on MrRAW, industrial heritage? We were past our best industrially by that time.
Generally agree with most of that but what is missing however is that all other governments in Europe and beyond was subsidising their industries in a similar manner to our government. Thatcher removed the subsidy on all nationalised industries and they sank as planned. Those subsidies remain today in the German mining industry and like all other government handouts it eventually comes back in the form of taxes.
RAW you need to understand that not everyone has your left wing beliefs and you should respect other peoples opinions even if you whole heartedly disagree with them. I happen to think what you said is utter ****e but we are all entitled to an opinion!
We are still paying for Blair and Brown's time in power! Prosperous and fair society? It was all debt being built up and a time of waste! It was also the time of us losing control of our borders. We are seeing the true results of that fair and prosperous society right now.
