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Southampton's Contribution to England

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  1. fatletiss

    fatletiss Well-Known Member

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    Blackburn I think.
     
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  2. Beddy

    Beddy Plays the percentage

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    What about Terry Paine (sorry if he has been mentioned before) Martin Chivers, did he play for England while he played at Saints. Osgood perhaps
     
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  3. ChilcoSaint

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    So far we have:
    C. B. Fry
    Alf Ramsey
    Terry Paine
    Mick Channon
    Steve Williams
    Danny Wallace
    Matt Le Tissier
    Alan Shearer
    James Beattie
    Wayne Bridge
    Rickie Lambert
    Adam Lallana
    Luke Shaw
    Jay Rodriguez
    Nathaniel Clyne

    David Armstrong was still at Middlesbrough when he was first capped.
    18 to go.
     
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  4. ChilcoSaint

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    Terry's on the list, Chivers went to Spurs in 1968 and wasn't capped until 1971, and Ossie was still at Chelsea when he was capped in 1970.
     
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  5. ChilcoSaint

    ChilcoSaint What a disgrace
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    Here's a few more:
    Bill Ellerington
    Fred Titmuss
    Bert Lee
    Bill Rawlings
    George Molyneux
     
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  6. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Need to look that up, Got his debut in the same year. Done so. You can add Tim Flowers to the list. Transferred to Blackburn in November '93, but made his England debut in June '93 during the US Cup.

    12 to go.
     
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  7. Saints_Alive

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    Just checked the 1he Saints cup final teams at the turn of the century on Wiki and it just goes to show that the Southern League was almost the Premier League of its' day.
    There were SEVEN England full internationals playing for Saints in 1902.

    Jack Robinson, Archie Turner and Harry Wood all made their England debuts with Saints to add to Chilco's list.
     
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  8. TheSecondStain

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    Blimey. I fell into the trap that Northerners tell everybody. Football isn't played in the South, and certainly it wasn't in the Southern League. Must admit, I was wondering where the 12 were going to come from. 9 is much easier.

    Here's another: Mark Wright.. 8 to go.
     
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  9. TheSecondStain

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    If England 'B' is considered as a full England cap then Rod Wallace can be added. If not...
     
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  10. ChilcoSaint

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    Updated list in roughly the right order historically:
    C. B. Fry
    Arthur Chadwick
    Jack Robinson
    Archie Turner
    Harry Wood
    Bill Ellerington
    Bert Lee
    Fred Titmuss
    Bill Rawlings
    George Molyneux
    Alf Ramsey
    Terry Paine
    Mick Channon
    Steve Williams
    Mark Wright
    Danny Wallace
    Tim Flowers
    Matt Le Tissier
    Alan Shearer
    James Beattie
    Wayne Bridge
    Peter Crouch
    Rickie Lambert
    Adam Lallana
    Luke Shaw
    Jay Rodriguez
    Nathaniel Clyne

    That's 25, 8 to go. I'm just going out to watch a blues band so if you could all kindly carry on the research I'd be most grateful! <whistle>

    Edit: Crouch added, cheers Lewebster. 7 more needed!

    Edit: Artur Chadwick added, thanks saintlyhero. 6 to go.
     
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  11. TheSecondStain

    TheSecondStain Needs an early night

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    Same as with Rod Wallace. Malcolm Waldron was another England B capped player. Might count, might not.
     
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  12. lewebster

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    Peter crouch was still a Saint when he first played for England.
     
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  13. ChilcoSaint

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    Good shout, called up in May 2005, transferred to Liverpool in July.

    Table updated.
     
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  14. TheSecondStain

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    And people wonder why we get a little anxious when our players finally get international recognition. Crouch was just another in an inevitable line of ex-Saints players. The thing is, we always gave players a chance, even already established players who, for one reason or another, couldn't get a consistent run of games elsewhere. But they blossomed at Southampton.
     
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  15. saintlyhero

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    Arthur Chadwick....Godders will remember him from the turn of the century

    Surprised to see Charlie Wayman never got an England Cap
     
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  16. ChilcoSaint

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    Thanks, Arthur had 2 caps in 1900, then moved to Portsmouth and was never picked for England again.

    Table updated, 6 to go!
     
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  17. TheSecondStain

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    Must admit, so was I. Even if it was during his time with another club. Zero caps. Mind you, it may well have been Tom Finney in his position, then one would understand.
     
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  18. fatletiss

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    Was Finney a better plumber? :)
     
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  19. st_brendy

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    Apologies if this has been included on a different thread, but I've just come across this little quote from Roy in relation to JWP (hidden within an article about Poch):

    "'We like him,’ said England manager Roy Hodgson. ‘We’ve kept our hands off him simply because of the Under 21s but we know he’s a big prospect and the moment he comes back from the Czech Republic he’ll be very much in our thoughts.'"

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...e-saviour-English-football.html#ixzz3WNcKr8X7
     
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  20. fran-MLs little camera

    fran-MLs little camera Well-Known Member

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    They mentioned that on Sunday Supplement (Sky). Interesting because a few fans remain unconvinced about JWP.... as I said before he's not a flashy player, but seems to be valued by his team and manager. Southgate is a real fan of his. England management have said they want to see more players go through the age groups into the senior squad, which will mean they have played together before.
     
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