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Discussion in 'Hull City' started by originallambrettaman, Apr 1, 2015.

  1. PLT

    PLT Well-Known Member

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    No one ever challenges the notion that Allam is this amazing businessmen. It's hardly ever mentioned that his earlier business, Ruscador, ceased operating resulting in the entire workforce losing their jobs. Allam prides himself on not giving a **** about the people he upsets, or causes to lose their job, or forcefully takes municipal facilities from.
     
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  2. King Curtis

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    All of those complaining about the anti-Allam stuff need only look at the reason this nonsense carries on. Apologies that some of us aren't as submissive as to roll over and have our bellies tickled by the old man. Nobody is happy about this, only a petulant old man determined to get his own way. Believe it or not, the sun does not shine out of his arse and he is not leading us to a pot of gold with this name change bobbins. The application was slammed by the FA and the man was also shown to hold contempt for supporters, deeming them irrelevant until late on. The majority of the footballing world also seem to see this as absolute bobbins. It's sad that an old man's whim has divided the supporters so badly. I'm more perplexed that despite his petulance he is still held as a saint by some.
     
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  3. DMD

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    Was that an option? I seem to recall it being said at the time that it wasn't as there were no assets so it would go straight to liquidation. Am I recalling wrong, or was the claim wrong?
     
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  4. FER ARK

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    Comment number 16, from Craig nails it for me
     
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  5. CityCalv

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    Sold it onto who? Allam completely saved the club and you both know it, but now you dislike him you're trying to completely ignore his amazing gesture. It's pathetic to call what he did "good."
     
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  6. Quill

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    Okay then, it was a ****ing **** idea.

    Happy, ****?



    Still waiting for proof as well...
     
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  7. Obadiah

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    That wasn't the question I answered. As you rightly say we would have had a club. What you and I don't know is how much money the new owner would have had and how much he would have put into Hull City.
     
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  8. CityCalv

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    Where's your proof that we would still be going if it wasn't for Allam?
     
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  9. Chilton's Hundreds

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    Only one or two people know if the liquidation threat was real.

    Everyone else has to guess.
     
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  10. Quill

    Quill Bastard

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    Because, as Obi has already told you, Bartlett would have put it into administration and sold it on.

    Still waiting for your proof...
     
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  11. Obadiah

    Obadiah Well-Known Member

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    I think the SMC accounts said Bartlett had personally guaranteed the RBS loan. If City ceased to exist the SMC couldn't have continued with just Hull FC and the likelihood is he'd have had to dig deep in his own pocket to pay the guarantees. Put City into administration and at least some rent would be paid to the SMC allowing the mortgage to be repaid.

    If City went into liquidation the remaining parachute monies would have been distributed around other clubs.

    Financially administration would make more sense and allow Bartlett to get out of his financial obligations.

    Hours from liquidation makes a better story though.
     
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  12. CityCalv

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    That's bullshit. <laugh>

    As DMD said, there were no assets so it would have gone straight to liquidation.
     
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  13. StrovolosTiger

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    Speaking of tiny minorities, how's the HCST membership coming along?
     
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  14. Quill

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    Read the above post.

    Still waiting for your proof...
     
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  15. StrovolosTiger

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    How do you know it's not true?
     
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  16. 14 on Jack's Shirt

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    I've so far resisted the temptation to comment on this thread, mainly due to the level of vitriol on both sides of the argument. However, I think it is naive to think that because me - and other like me - have not commented that we are a "silent majority" that is agnostic to the name change.

    I have been going to watch Hull City AFC with the same group of guys since 1990 (we range in age from late 30s to early 60s) and I can honestly say that I don’t know a single “fan” that is in favour of the name change on merit. There are those that are afraid of what will happen if Dr Allam leaves, and support the change on that basis, but that in itself is not support of change to Hull Tigers.

    I think this thread is a microcosm of the 2 extremes in the debate (as you tend to get on these forums) however I think that the centre ground is certainly NOT pro-name change, and the longer this debacle continues the more polarised opinions will become.

    A football club is supposed to be a representation of the community, the one thing I am certain of, is that while the club insists on dividing the community it is supposed to represent the long term damage may become irreversible
     
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  17. Quill

    Quill Bastard

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    How do you know there is definitely a silent majority backing Allam?
     
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  18. CityCalv

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    You're clearly going to believe what you like to hear, where as before the name change I bet you believed we would have gone into liquidation, now you're just in denial.
     
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  19. originallambrettaman

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    Rather better after yesterday, thanks.
     
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  20. Quill

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    I always believed we would be safe you ****ing arse, don't try to dictate to me what I think.
     
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