Oh come on, stop the bullshit and stick to facts will you? It was Labour who introduced private companies into the NHS - fact. The number of NHS managers ballooned under Labour - fact. A friend of mine is a secretary to a consultant in Morriston. She has SEVEN, yes SEVEN tiers of management above her. It's ridiculous. This Government has sacked thousands of managers in England because the NHS was bureaucracy heavy under Labour - fact. We still have an inefficient NHS in Wales that under performs England because it's still over-managed and run by Labour - fact. The recent parliamentary report into the NHS (blocked for publication until post election by Labour MPs despite them being on the Committee) found that private companies have a minimal impact in the running of the NHS day to day, and that it's a Labour myth that the Tories are wrecking the NHS, perpetuated by Milliband with the sole aim of frightening the public into voting Labour. The Government has recruited thousands of new doctors and nurses in England - something the previous government failed to do and something the Labour lot in Cardiff fail have also not done in Wales - another fact. But keep believing the bull despite the lack of evidence to support your argument.
If I was in power I would firstly scrap the House of Lords, that would be the first place I would start, secondly I would remove the conflicts of interest that so discredits our parliamentary system, no MP would be allowed to have any interest in any Corporation while serving as an MP, a disgrace that continues to have clear conflict of interest and undermines the political process, something the deceitful Tory scum are very good at. Just digest the facts below as you seem to enjoy real facts: Key Facts of interests in healthcare 225 parliamentarians have recent or present financial private healthcare connections 145 Lords have recent or present financial connections to companies or individuals involved in healthcare 124 Peers benefit from the financial services sector 1 in 4 Conservative Peers have recent or present financial connections to companies or individuals involved in healthcare 1 in 6 Labour Peers have recent or present financial connections to companies or individuals involved in healthcare 1 in 6 Crossbench Peers have recent or present financial connections to companies or individuals involved in healthcare 1 in 10 Liberal Democrat Peers have recent or present financial connections to companies or individuals involved in healthcare 75 MPs have recent or present financial links to companies or individuals involved in private healthcare 81% of these are Conservative 4 Key members of the Associate Parliamentary Health Group have parliamentarians with financial connections to companies or individuals involved in healthcare 4 Patrons of the pro-reform think tank 2020health have Peers with private healthcare links Nearly 40% of the most powerful individuals in healthcare are from companies with links to Lords and MPs. 4 MPs and 1 Lord have worked for Huntsworth Health, run by a Peer who gave money to Cameron’s leadership campaign 25 of the Finalists in the HealthInvestors Awards 2012 have parliamentarians connected to them 2 companies, DACBeachcroft, Cumberlege Connections, which have Lords as a partner and as an owner respectively, moved themselves into a position to make money from the reforms as the Lords voted on the bill, and before the bill became Act 5 organisations link to Baroness Cumberlege: Her company, Cumberlege Connections, Associate Parliamentary Health Group, 2020health, Huntsworth plc, MJM, healthcare solutions 19 Lords and MPs have financial links to Pharmaceutical giant GlaxoSmithKline 9 Lords and MPs have received payment from a company run by Baroness Cumberlege, called Cumberlege Connections, which is a healthcare training and political networking company 1 – the amount of times the BBC challenged Andrew Lansley in the last three years on his donation received to fund his private office when shadow health minister from John Nash the chairman of Care UK. Mr Nash was made a Lord. All were able to vote on the Health and Social Care bill (now Act), despite having a prejudicial interest, which would not have been allowed at local council level. AS these facts clearly show the biggest criminals at westminster are in Blue, and these Bastards have the brass neck to vote on our NHS Health system. And finally dismantling the Aristocracy in this country by stripping it of all it's ill gotten gains, including the Royal Family, The Church of England, and declaring the Tory Party illegal would go a long way to bringing about a far more equitable system than what we have had to date, Cromwell's speech at his dissolving of Parliament in 1653 has never been so pertinent.
Well I agree with some of that. It's incongruous that we're supposed to be a democratic society yet have a tier of government that's completely unelected. It also includes voting bishops These people make important decisions that effect all of us. Whether you can actually have MPs that have lived their life in a bubble without any connections to any company is doubtful. I do think you're overblowing the importance of private companies in the NHS. The recent report shows their impact is minimal.
I tend to agree with the person whose letter was printed in the Letters column in The Independent today. Like him, it strikes me that Cameron and the Tories are not entirely trusted by the electorate, Miliband is not rated, and Clegg is viewed as an inferior version of Cameron. Who to vote for? As in the Richard Pryor film, Brewster's Millions - "None of the above"
that says it all then ..........his taste in politics is on the same level.........boring, plastic and fking out of date in the bargain basket
Genesis went through a few phases Aber. Lilywhite Lilith is a track off The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway - a 1974 concept double album - and the last before Peter Gabriel left the band. Personally, I like Trick of the Tail and Wind and Wuthering the best. After that it went too commercial for my taste.
did anyone listen 2 the George carlin vid I put up>>>>yes its about the yank government but that pretty much sums up the way it works over here as well....................its all an illusion 2 make us feel like we have a say>>>>>>we haven't.........
they went through phases because they chased the money>>>>shame really if they properly wrote music for themselves im sure the talent would have shown through........instead they gave us nothing of any note (excuse the pun)
You are entitled to your opinion on music because you like what you like and I like what I like. No right or wrong. Just respect that and we'll get along fine. As for politics, I suppose the same could be said. But I do like facts to back me up you'll notice. I agree with you Aswan. Big fan of the Gabriel years and I've seen him live twice since, but despite that it was Trick of The Tail and Wind & Wuthering that did it for me. I guess Collins took the view they couldn't go on playing to small audiences and went for the big time - they made some awful stuff after that (with some exceptions) but the public loved it. Those two albums right in the middle of it all struck the right balance for me.
"I read someone saying here: "or we have capitalism or communism." Why? Why can't we accept that, even preferring a system, that's possible to imagine it better, more inclusive, without having to demonize any idea or person who is not fully matched with what we think? Capitalism brought (and brings) benefits, but not for everyone, definitely. And if you, for whatever reason, find yourself on the side of those who are not blessed with these benefits, things may be quite different. And if you have the opportunity to visit a country or a region that serves mainly as "food" for the Western powers, perhaps the concept will change forever. The fact is that capitalism is dying, (at least the way we know it) it's the snake eating itself. It's impossible, for various reasons, to continue producing and consuming more and more. We are drowning hand in hand with Capitalism, and I'm not talking about groups that still manage to live in "bubbles" oblivious to what really happens. There should be alternatives to save what we built so far but also that allow us to move forward as humans and as a society. It's hard to measure the damage, but, just as capitalism, our society is sick." - Monteschio
Cameron: "We fixed the economy - don't let Labour wreck it" is the message he wants to get across? But 'Fat Bastard Dave' you Borrowed £500 Billion you idiot!.............
This current government spent billions on a top down reorganisation and filled it with more managers - fact. The NHS in England is on its knees - fact. The Welsh NHS too is in a mess, but the Barrnett formula shortchanges us by £1.5 billion, which the Tories refused to look at - Fact. Welsh Labour (although a bunch of tosspots) have had to cut public spending because of this shortfall and the Tories want to use this as a political spin - Fact. A Labour myth that the Tories are wrecking the NHS? It takes a minimum of 5-7 years to become a doctor, so those new qualified doctors and nurses you speak of would have started their training under the Labour government. But keep believing the Tories propaganda bull if it suits your political views.
And 99% of us are £1600 a year worse off, energy bills rocketing, and broke his promise within a week not to raise the VAT. Then gave himself and his millionaire cabinet chums and friends a £100,000 tax cut.
Nobody is denying that Wales is underfunded and I've never said otherwise. Yes I'm sure that the £1B underfund will all go into the NHS . Where is your evidence that the English NHS is in such dire straits? It's a myth. I'd prefer real evidence rather than opinions of Labour politicians not based on fact. How do you counter the Parliamentary Report (compiled by MPs of all colours and who took months of evidence and looked at the stats) saying that it's coping well? You can't. No surprise, because real spending on the NHS has actually gone up under this government. How's that for a fact? As for managers, the English NHS has lost thousands whilst the Welsh NHS struggles - yes in part this may be due to due to funding but in large part due to mismanagement. Waiting times are higher as are mortality rates. Where's your evidence that "99% of us are £1,600 worse off"? Millions on low incomes have been taken OUT of tax ffs. I know because I'm one of them! Where's your evidence that the PM had a £100,000 tax boost? The Government has had flak from the rich for increasing taxes on them. They got flak from Labour for allowing loopholes in tax regimes whereas the opposite is true - the Finance Minister for Geurnsey has come out and said (echoed by many in the financial industry) that this government has introduced more obstacles to tax dodging than any in history. It is of course yet another Labour lie because they've got **** all to offer so they make stuff up on the hoof. Btw if your source comes from anyone within a million miles of Milliband I won't believe it.
Have you been living under Daves bed? It's been widely reported that wages have fallen in real terms by £1600 - fact. Low income threshold has been lifted because of the Lib Dems - fact. Do you really believe that the English NHS is not crumbling quicker than your arguments? What about hundreds of thousands being treated appallingly on 0 hour contracts just to pad the unemployment figures in Daves favour? - fact What benefits has Dave and his chums brought to the economies outside of the South East bubble? It's clear that you are very one eyed in favour of the Tories so this debate is pointless. The majority of us on here think that Labour and the Tories are a waste of space, but it's pointless having a discussion with someone who is so anti Labour whilst thinking the sun shines out of Daves arse. What about the £500 billion MORE that the Tories have borrowed? - fact.
British politics is riddled with corruption and has always been like that since young William pit's day. The next time a candidate of any party comes knocking at your door and gives you his prepared bull that will be music to your ears and what you want to hear do a couple of things......first tell then that what you say is great but its the opposite to your own party's politics so will you vote against your own party ignoring the whips, and secondly inform them that if they do vote with their party going against what they are saying on the doorstep that they will be given a vote of no confidence and will be badgered to resign at every opportunity.....
