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Barnes is playing race card

Discussion in 'Hull City' started by PattyNchips2, Mar 30, 2015.

  1. PattyNchips2

    PattyNchips2 Well-Known Member

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    nah times have moved on since them days.
    "I aint playing football for that black bastard!"
    look at Chris Houghton. The obvious example is Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink - his success will open the floodgates.
     
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    Cant stand him. He is **** as a manager but blames others for no being re-employed. I don't think he realises that he has now made himself unemployable as 1. he is a **** manager and 2. if someone was stupid enough to employ his **** ass and then sacked him he would then probably say that he was sacked as he is black and not actually **** as a manager.
     
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    FYI, First Nations is the preferred terminology for Native Canadians. Incidentally, I noticed someone made a reference to "squaw" in a thread a while ago. I chose to ignore it at the time but it now seems appropriate to point out that this is a particularly offensive and derogatory name for First Nations women and has no place outside of documents from the 1600s. The word squaw is believed to derive from the Mohawk word "ojiskwa" which translates politely as vagina and was used as a slur by early trappers and missionaries (when they were not assuming the position).
     
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    Cherie Lunghi has more of a claim to a manager's job than John Barnes has. Sad to see someone being so blind about his own shortcomings and looking for something else to blame.
     
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    PattyNchips2 Well-Known Member

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    oh wow.
    heh ****!
    you've been in Canada WAY too long man.
     
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    John Barnes played for England despite being Jamaican.

    I don't think racism's the issue here; he's just a really, really **** manager.
     
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    We have come a long way in becoming an integrated football society. I remember when Albert Johanneson, one of the first black players to play in English league football, was pelted with bananas at Elland Road. All the black players in our leagues today in some way owe their positions to the bravery and courage of players like Johanneson. By comparison, Barnes had it comparatively easy. If he wants to feel opressed, that is his prerpgative only don't tarnish the memories of the Albert Johannesons of the world.
     
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    "Do you consider yourself English or Jamaican first?"
    "Neither. I consider myself John Barnes"

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    swans-m Well-Known Member

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    Black people make up 3% of the UK's population. 6.5% of managers in the football league are black. How exactly is that under represented?
     
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    Let it be known that from this day forth, on this board, 'squaw' shall be the official name for a ladies front bottom.

    'She had a squaw like a bucket.'

    Marvellous.
     
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    so who called a female red indian a squaw first ? was it an indian themselves or was it the English/spanish/French etc
     
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    First recorded in written English in 1622, it actually means 'woman' and though it's considered a derogatory word now, it didn't used to be...

    In general, from the 17th to the 19th century, Euro-American settlers learned to use squaw, one of the many loan words adopted from Native American languages, as a generic term to identify American Indian women. Although there is obvious evidence that some colonists hated Indians (whom they insultingly depicted as "primitive savages"), and that some colonial men demeaned women of all colors, the term had, at that time, no universal derogatory connotation, sexual or not.

    Courtesy of wiki.
     
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    bum_chinned_crab Well-Known Member

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    We were talking about ethnicity, when did religion become an issue for consideration? I cant think of of Jehovah's Witness or Mormon managers either.
     
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    Good point. I thought the percentage for the UK was higher than 3%. So if 6.5% of FL managers are black, that equates to 6. Who are they?
     
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    Chris Ramsey (QPR), Chris Powell (Huddersfield), Chris Hughton (Brighton), Fabio Liverani (Leyton Orient), Keith Curle (Carlisle) and Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink (Burton).
     
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    OK ta.
     
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    Polly13 Well-Known Member

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    I guess there's still an issue surrounding the number of black players who go into management though, because the percentage of FL players who are black must be much higher than 6.5%
     
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    And 50% of the 6.5% are called Chris. I think Geoff's are underrepresented at the minute. Who can I complain to?
     
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    I'd write to the FA initially, but cc it to Kick It Out, the Equalities Commission and John Barnes.
     
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    i looked at that yesterday on the 2011 census results. the 3% isn't the whole story - another 2% regard themselves as mixed-race and might be considered black.
     
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