Sterling - 'Money is not everything in my life'

pj... you are quite right.... force is legally in correct.

however

1. No we can't force him to sign

2. Yes we need an acceptable offer from someone. I am assuming there will be a small queue and at 30mil it would get longer... 40/50 mil = a short queue of names we all know

3. If you look at what wev'e done this year in madly buying badontelly and then basically making him sit and switch for his money then yes actually i do expect him to be dropped and i do expect that if ibe is all all what I expect then he can sit his arse on the bench and cry.

We did this to carroll... 35mil wasted. 19mil back. plus x on his loan.

Believe me if aug 16th rolls round with no movement and heels are dug in 2 weeks in the cold will have him demanding a move by aug 31.

 

If Ibe can easily replace Sterling or be even better then the £30-50m price range is high. The difference being that Sterling has shown he can perform in the PL at a very good standard....high enough for Rodgers to tag him as the best young player in Europe not so long ago.

Onto Ibe, I have only seen him in one game, the Goodison Derby and he looked okay...but nobody from either side looked that good all day and he was playing against an out of form side - all the MOTD hype you want to throw at him is nothingg compared to how he performs over a full season.

Sterling has done that......Ibe, not yet.

 

Have you seen ibe and stelring?

Ibe is two years younger than sterling.. is as fast but stonger and well built for the prem. Further he has a lot of scope to improve as this is his season 1 as a real senior player.

sterling is finishing season 3.

I've seen both from the day they signed up as kids from qpr and wycome respectively....

all I'm saying is if it comes to it **** it sell the guy. there's always another player.

 

He should be kept but not at all costs. He's not worth 150,000 pw let alone 180k! 100k a week would be a top deal for a 20 year old who by the stabdards he set last year is having an average season.

However if he's not going to sign and someone comes in with an offer of 50m then bye their hand off.

35m and oxlade-chamberlain from arsenal? Wouldn't mind that...

 

I have seen big and strong players try to knock Sterling off the ball.....I say try, not many manage it. Unlike you I have not followed their progression through. As a fan I would be more concerned facing Sterling than Ibe, Sterling has shown he can do it.
When you say Ibe has more scope for improvement, do you think Sterling has reached a peak or that Ibe will simply do better long term?

 

Can we call him Raheem Wright Phillips now then?

 

Not until he signs for Spurs.

 

How about he goes to Arsenal and you get Walcott and some cash in swap?

 

Do you know something we don't know?...Ian Wright his father?

 

He's not worth that much right now but he will be in time. Problem is, give him that much now and he'll want a lot more when that time comes. I say **** the greedy little ****, let's get £30m+ for him and play Ibe instead who I think has more potential anyway.

 

I think most Liverpool fans have concerns when it comes to Sterling, his decision makeing and finishing can be terrible he doesn't seem focused. Ibe does look very good, the kind of player that get you off your seat. Which is the better prospect? Sterling is ahead now but it wouldn't surprise me if Ibe does improve and become a better player.

 

ah but only when he wants to stand up yes sterling is a powerful little guy at this point but then again.... so was michael owen. That the thing.. in the english league no matter what we say we make athletes and power players not "wonderful technicians"

David brent might be right....

Sterling is a runner. he's got his faults and his qualities. I feel ibe has all the same qualities... and his finishing is as woeful at times... so... if 50mil comes by LFC should take it rather than risk his contract running down.

If the boy chooses to sign up... great. if not, sell....

Its the same for barkely with you. As lng as he's on a good contract he is appreciating in value, but the very slightest hint of it not being renewed and he has to be off.

My fear with sterling is two fold:

1. I am not sure he will improve in terms of finishing or vision. I think with experience he will get better and his peak will prob be around 24/25. He has a lot of experience to rely on right now

2. I think with all speed merchants he could get an injury that knocks the edge off his game.

I feel with ibe:

1. He's not got as much experience but is very young and has improved quite a bit on his loan to derby. He's done a decent job at RWB for us and showed he could hold a position at least.

2. He is a pace player too but had more bulk to him to stand up to some punishment. The risks with him are the same as sterling...


all in all... if we get 50mil for sterling, put ibe on a 5 year deal worth 40k per week or soemthing then i'd have to admit its sound business but also that its not what we'd want to do to develop as a club... jsut selling on players is never a good place to develop from..... but again atletico is kind of in my mind as they sold on and improved each time.

 

So instead of £30m they give us Walcott and £35m...?

 

Just the cash thanks

 

If you like... SWP might be headed to MLS shortly which says it all. we will see as its a shame a kid who got a great chance ended up flopping... scott sinclair is similar.

For every top guy like modric or say ballack an agent can point to there are examples of too much too soon.

 

Sterling was similar expectation when he started... the anticipation for some kids like this is scary i must say... luckily right now not one other kid has this expectation. sincalir, ojo etc for me just don't have the burden that sterling had to carry... Ibe even doesn't have it.

In fairness to him he's bore it decently... reports of 10 babies and assaults aside of course.... and being too tried... I am not sure theres many who could do that.

 

Sterling had the burden because we'd paid millions for him as a fourteen year old!

 

If, by some miracle, we could get £50m for Sterling then we should take it in a heartbeat (£40m if he's going abroad). He's going to be a good player - a very good player. But he's no Suarez, or even a Gerrard. Don't even think he has as much potential as Fowler or Owen at that age.

 

fowler was the best finisher of all at 17 and was fast.. he was very fast. he wasn't good outside the box.
Owen was greased lightening and a good finisher.. his idea of ball control was kick it 5 yards away and run after it.
Sterling is in between in pace, prob close to owen. he is a poor finisher. but prob better out and round the pitch.

You are right he's never a suarez. I don't think we'll see a moment that we will point to as say wow how did he do that... that coutinho territory... but will we see an owne style goal one day... probably. At pace sterling is hard to stop.

but in the end its all down to who is available, how many players does a side need and how much will FFP allow them to shell out now. Real spent 70 mil on james after shelling out 85 on bale... Barca threw 75 at suarez in instalments.

can city afford 50mil... yes if ffp allows it. Will they? If they are all in for bale and/or ronaldo probably not. If there is a royal tussle for ronaldo the losers in that fight are likely to need to soothe egos and i am hopeing 50mil is possible.

Lets face it if lallana is 25mil these days players like sterling are rare. Arsneal can pay close to it for sanchez, ozil... they have it too.

 

well we paid a bit yes but at the time it was 500k or so to rise and i think it was what he did at underage level that really started his expectation.

in a way there was pacheco ahead of him and there was a HUGE transfer of expectations from him to sterling IMO as well.

his eventual fee is supposedly 4/5mil or something.