That's it, there is no alternative. Labour would be a disaster - like last time. They left the country in a huge mess. Plaid Cymru are a complete joke - I've worked a couple of their conferences and believe me - deluded doesn't even come close. The biggest problem with the country is the scummy chavs that are ruining it for everyone else. A much bigger problem than any government we'll end up with. As soon as a political group gets hardcore with this scum they'll get my vote.
Seems to me that the thread is anti capitalist as well as anti Tory though I had some trouble differentiating between the rhetoric, the insults and the bluster. Firstly, capitalism does work - no it's not perfect and to many it's an unattractive concept but it's been the foundation of the world's great economies for a long long time. Even China, that stalwart Communist state has embraced capitalism and since it has just look at its rise. It's a fact that people across the world are less poor today than they were 50 years ago and there's a reason for that - personal endeavour and government policy based on capitalism. Socialism is a dead duck - look at the mess in countries who have left wing governments who have overspent on welfare and public services just to retain power. That's why Blair changed the Labour Party 20 years ago to appeal to a newer, aspiring generation. I voted for Labour at the time, more fool me. Iraq war anyone? Since then just look as the dog-****e mess they've made of running Wales. Worse record on NHS and Education than England. Sad but true. In Wales you'll probably die waiting for an ambulance. There's a parliamentary report on the NHS compiled by MPs from all parties that puts the Government's handling of the NHS in a very favourable light, pointing out increased spending on medical staff and success at cutting bureaucracy. No surprise it's scandalously been blocked for publication by Labour MPs until after the election because it pulls the rug out from underneath their useless leader. Now he can continue frightening the public about the NHS in Tory hands. The evidence is here. The OP seems to think that his rather nonsensical post only relates to Tories. Almost every comment could be applied to Labour politicians too. Most of their front bench is publicly educated and/ or wealthy in their own right. Silver-spoon lawyer Chuka Umunna went to St Dunstan's and apparently played the cello before becoming a chorister at Southwark Cathedral - real working class suff eh? And it amazes me that the British public is even considering handing back the financial reigns to the odious Ed Balls - a minister in the Treasury during the financial debacle that got us into this mess in the first place. The man has proven incompetence so good luck with that. Don't get me started on Milliband. Consider this: 1: He bangs on about the NHS but if you know your politics you'll know that it was the last government that ****ed up the GP contracts leading to them opting out of home visits (with an accompanying 20% pay rise) leading to increased pressure on A&E that this government now has to cope with. A GP friend of mine said she'd 'won the lottery'. If you didn't laugh you'd cry. The evidence is here. 2: He moans about the government breaking its promise to remove the deficit (it's been halved) when it was his party that caused it. Bit rich really. 3: He gripes about immigration when even he says that the last government 'got it wrong' when it opened the doors to unrestricted immigration. An adviser to Jack Straw told the Telegraph that: "relaxation of controls was a deliberate plan to open up the UK to mass migration but that ministers were nervous and reluctant to discuss such a move publicly for fear it would alienate its 'core working class vote'." This was Labour policy until 2009, adding almost 3M to our population. Now Milliband has the brass neck to moan about immigration. 4: He said that this government's plan would lead to increased unemployment and be disastrous for the economy. Er.... highest number of people in employment since records began and the fastest growing economy in the world last year. Nice one Ed. 5: This is a man who has so much respect for the British public and the concept of democracy that he will refuse them the right of a referendum on Europe. 6: Despite his denials a deal with the SNP is on the cards because Milliband will be desperate to get over the line. I predict riots on the streets and a breakup of the UK shortly afterwards if that happens, and of course that result is exactly what the SNP want. Very clever play by them. I'm not a spokesman for Cameron and much of government policy troubles me to be honest but the alternative really scares me. I'm working class and have people in my family unemployed right now, hopefully temporarily. I firmly believe that nobody in this country should have to use a food bank. I have relatives on benefits and it's hard - but they get by without begging or using a food bank. The only exception may be a youngster who is turfed out and can't claim benefits. The now infamous White D on that benefits programme grabbed her alcoholic mate and went to a food bank, showed her claimant card and walked home weighed down with 4 carrier bags afterwards. She then sat in her kitchen (bigger and better than mine) where she promptly lit up a *** whilst her mate swigged from a bottle of White Lightning. These people are NOT in a minority sadly and it makes my ****ing blood boil. So I'm not sure what point the OP is trying to make because much of the post was unfathomable but whether the message is anti-capitalist or anti-government or both he's failed miserably because the rhetoric is all well and good but it's the facts that matter. No offence but do your research next time. You might not like what you find though.
@ Lillywhite Your post is typical of those that are sucked into the game, and as for your comment that Capitalism is working, well if it is working then why did your Tory scum mates at Westminster have to bale it out with tax payers money? trouble with posters like you is you have no depth to your argument, most can see that the system we live under in this country is structured for the favour of the few at the expense of the many, and the Tory party are at the heart of all this, I'm not advocating the benefits of Labour as there are none, and your assumption that I favour them is way off the mark as is the rest of your post. The Tory Party are cowardly scum because they were not interested in confronting the abuse of our welfare system, but rather would attack the most vulnerable to pay for the banking crisis, a crisis of capitalism which you say is working? don't make me laugh, only someone deluded would consider Capitalism works. We all know there are chavs, benefit tourists, immigrants, all milking the system as much as your Tory mates are with their expense's scandal, but to believe they have reduced the deficit which they accepted from their Banking mates in the city would be delusional. In fact IDS has caused more cost and chaos than the Labour party did in their previous time at number 10. Your attacks on Milliband are pointless as two wrongs never make a right, so what are you trying to prove? That Labour are as inept as the Tories? If the deficit is really concerning to British Governments then why have we not suspended our overseas aid budget which stands at between £9 to £12 Billion give-away? The sooner you get your head out of the sand and realise that this so-called democracy in this country has failed along with it's Capitalistic thinking, and realise that radical change is needed then you will continue to go around like a headless chicken sucked into a pointless game designed to trap the unwary.
"Firstly, capitalism does work - no it's not perfect and to many it's an unattractive concept but it's been the foundation of the world's great economies for a long long time. Even China, that stalwart Communist state has embraced capitalism and since it has just look at its rise. It's a fact that people across the world are less poor today than they were 50 years ago and there's a reason for that - personal endeavour and government policy based on capitalism". correct me if im wrong but doesn't this only work when you have a mindless nation working more hours for less pay??,.. they shall awaken one day, and thy rich mans head will be on thy spike with the rest of the fraudster`s sucking money out of our country
You mean Baron Barnes Von Claptrap. At least he's from the area.. http://www.gowerloonies.co.uk/about-the-baron/
Blame labour is what the Tories want you to think but they voted overwhelm for the iraq war.....There is only one person who got this country in a mess that both previous labour and tory/libdem have never been able to recover from and that was Thatcher. It was thatchers love child Tony Blair who carried on destroying this country as he was not labour in any shape or form so much so he changed the name to New labour, What was that all about........Vote tory and what this country has seen in the worst cuts in history have seen nothing yet......vote new labour and it will still produce cuts but in a lesser way and will go after the rich.......unfortunately my own party who are the true labour party dont have a chance but they will get my vote.........
Agree with a lot of that, however capitalism works only to serve the wealthy and powerful. Until the political and wealthy elite are overthrown, it's more of the same.
You'll find he has promised a referendum if more powers are transferred. Wales has recieved a lot of money from the EU over the years.
It only works if you are wealthy and powerful. The rest of us, the 99% of the population, are the slaves of capitalism.
You say I have no depth to my argument but my post at least is factual - yours seems to be based on biased, blinkered rhetoric. It is a fact that worldwide people are less poor than they were 50 years ago. If you think that's down to anything other than capitalism you're wrong. So you're not pro-Labour and you're clearly anti-Tory and anti-Establishment. Fair enough. I used to think like that when I was a teenager as well but get real. Are you serious when you say that the Tories haven't tackled welfare abuse? It's what they get criticised for more than anything else by many. But I do agree with you that the size of the overseas aid budget is sickening when we have austerity at home. Interesting that only UKIP have pledged to slash it so perhaps they should get your vote. We know Communism is a busted flush as is Socialism - remember the Winter of Discontent? So what's the alternative? Live in a never-to-be-achieved Green utopia where cars and industry are outlawed? Where people are taxed out of existence? Easy to rail against where we are but where do we go? You've pointed out your objections to our society but offer no plausible alternative.
Why we need over 600+ MP's anyway it's ridiculous. 200 is probably too many but would work better than 600+ for the whole of the UK anyway...make Cuts in that and abolish the lords while they are at it.
leave the lords alone dai mun, they've done our country proud and deserve a little sleep in grand settings for a few grand a week,...........im also sure when uncle boris gets the con job he will whuffle a few feathers in the lords with his antique duster against anyone who doesn't have more than 100million in offshore accounts.
Biggest problem I see, is the SNP will want to **** us all, for there own good. They won't give two 5hits about England or Wales, but all I can see is them out to disrupt the whole process.
