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Discussion in 'Bristol City' started by Mind the gap!, Mar 28, 2015.

  1. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    'We all make mistakes'
    Even Cotterill.

    'what height do you think Fielding is?'
    Your asking because the City Website says 6'1".
    Load of bo**ocks.
     
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  2. banksyisourhero

    banksyisourhero Well-Known Member

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    No this is a load of bollocks!

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  3. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    You gullible fool.
    The City Website reckons Fielding is 1" taller than JET.

    'No this is a load of bollocks!' - Spot on Banksy.
     
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  4. BrightredRickster

    BrightredRickster Well-Known Member

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    Worth pointing out that Gordon Banks was quite stocky - still the best goalkeeper I have ever seen
    The best Bristol City ever had was Mike Gibson, another shorty.

    I do agree with the point about being courageous, but not to the point of getting sent or carried off. We will probably never know what he was thinking at that time, so how about giving Fielding the benefit of the doubt. His expertise has kept us out of more than a few holes this season and maybe he deserves a little slack.
    Fielding's saves could yet stand between us and failure before the next month is finished
     
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  5. LARED

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    What pace what movement? Running around like a headless chicken does not constitute that. Agard gets by in a good team but is merely an average L1 player. Jet has Championship skill but not the necessary modern team ethic. The question is can either bridge the gap? Agard definitely not and history dictates that Jet will never change ie he will always be a luxury substitute.
    As regards Fielding he has been more than adequate this year. Look at the goals against column
     
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  6. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    'Worth pointing out that Gordon Banks was quite stocky'

    Worth pointing out that Junior was the same size as Xavi.

    And your point is ?
     
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    I guess Fielding was being rather prudent because any mistake would have resulted in a red card.
    SC did infer this in his post match interview.
     
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  8. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    'SC did infer this in his post match interview'

    I heard that but I thought it was SC who was being prudent.
    Surely it's impossible to believe that when Fielding went for the ball he thought in that split second - 'hang on I might get sent off, we don't have another experienced keeper'.
    Sorry he was thinking of one thing - self preservation.
     
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  9. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    age seems to blurr the mind but he was star, Gibson Gow Garland Galley, AND AN OTHER FEW G's lined up one day, first names I think anyone got programmes going back to the late 60' early 70's?? think it was 1969/1970 1970 / 1971
    Gibson had good cover from a tall fullback Tony ford?
     
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  10. johngalleyfan2

    johngalleyfan2 Well-Known Member

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    What is the shots on goal figure like? our style of play has kept teams at a distance and a lot of the shots have been more than 20 yards+
     
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  11. Alandicksthegreat

    Alandicksthegreat Well-Known Member

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    Rp, "was his second goal unnatural for a keeper", well its all according how you view it, personally i think he went to go to his left because he anticipated the player was going to shoot to the right, but he was clever enough to go round him, that's why he stuck out a leg, "unnatural" well iv'e seen lots of keepers do the same thing, and i recon you have to, i still think you have to give Fielding credit for his goalkeeping so far this season, but i suppose if you don't like someone your not going to are you, by the way, he will be with us next season, first choice who knows, because if we go up, another goalkeeper would be a priority don't you think.
     
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  12. LARED

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    Well the precise shots on target figures from the opposition are (in brackets our shots on target)
    City 155 (200)
    Swindon 132 (210)
    Mk Dons 134 (233)
    Preston 116 (204)

    These illustrates two things to me
    a) Teams do far better against us in creating chances
    b) statistically Fielding has been adequate
     
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  13. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    'but i suppose if you don't like someone your not going to are you'

    I presume you mean that I don't rate as opposed to 'like'.
    I hope I give credit where credit is due AD.
    eg
    Many times have I said Junior has a footballing brain, but you well know what I thought of him as a player.
    I've said Wagstaff has some use, very little, but around the box as he has an eye for goal.
    I also commented that Fielding took 2 good crosses at YTFC the other week.
    Another who I 'doubt' is Agard but have said he is a 'fox in the box' and therefore has some use.
    Trying to think if I ever said anything good about El Abd, sorry, I admit to have never given him any credit whatsoever.

    'well iv'e seen lots of keepers do the same thing, and i recon you have to'
    I have but I've seen a lot more go down 'spreading' themselves.

    One who I have lavished praise on this year is Flint.
    But against the decent Barnsley striker he reminded me of what we all thought about him last season.
    It concerned me bearing in mind the higher quality strikers in the Championship.
    As you said we both say what we both see.
    Nothing wrong with that.

    'another goalkeeper would be a priority don't you think'
    Yes.
     
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  14. banksyisourhero

    banksyisourhero Well-Known Member

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    Explain this again! I have no idea what you mean?
     
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  15. Alandicksthegreat

    Alandicksthegreat Well-Known Member

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    Rp, "rate" as opposed to like, yep, i will give you that one, "Fielding took 2 good crosses at YTFC", and he took a few good crosses at WStadium last week, remember, i must admit Fielding's not the best keeper in the world by a long shot, but has had a very good season so far, and i hope i give credit where credit is due RP.
     
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  16. BrightredRickster

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    Obviously its that short goalkeepers aren't necessarily bad ones.
    which as Im sure you agree relates to Mr Fielding.
     
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  17. LARED

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    Banksy
    JGF2 asked at 2.49pm what the shots on goal figures were when discussing Fielding. These are they . It shows that Fielding is a busier goalkeeper than any of our adjacent clubs, whilst we are less prolific in creating chances. Still they are only statistics but he asked, So weve had 200 shots on target and our opponents 155. So as we have conceded 34 goals is it, this means that Fielding has saved 121 or 78%. Whether this includes woodwork shots I don't know . If it does then the percentage would increase
     
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  18. RedorDead

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    37.5 % conversion rate of shots to goals for us
    31.3% conversion for PNE shots to goals
    32.6% conversion for MKD shots to goals
    30.9% for the inbreds

    Get me I've morphed into JGF <laugh>
     
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  19. Redprintt

    Redprintt Well-Known Member

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    Rickster.
    'It's not just his size, he's not good at crosses and with 1 on 1's he's very much into self preservation.

    You commented
    'its that short goalkeepers aren't necessarily bad ones.
    which as Im sure you agree relates to Mr Fielding'

    For me what relates to 'Mr Fielding' is NOT just his size but his other SHORTcomings mentioned above.
    And something else he's useless at in the modern game - Kicking.

    PS - Agree about Banks but not so sure about Gibbo.
     
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  20. banksyisourhero

    banksyisourhero Well-Known Member

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    I've read this a few times and it must be me, but if we've had 200 shots on target and our opponents 155 how are we less prolific at making chances?? Fielding has saved 78% of chances, I make that 4 out of 5, seems pretty good to me. (I'm not good with stats!)

    With regards Reprintt, he made such a cock of himself with his Cotterill/ Elliot rubbish he has only just found the balls to get back to spouting more rubbish, it won't last long....
     
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